An obese passenger has accused United Airlines of discrimination, claiming the aisles are too narrow for her.
Obese Passenger: United Airlines Should Make Wider Aisles – It Is Guilty Of Discrimination Against “Plus-Sized” People
A “plus size model” who posts under “Big Curvy Olivia” on Tik Tok has accused United Airlines of discriminating against her and other passengers of size after she struggled to wedge herself through the Polaris Business Class cabin on a recent flight.
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She faulted United for discrimination, lamenting that it should build wider aisles on its aircraft.
Admittedly, I’m covering this somewhat out of amusement: it is not my aim to fat-shame this woman and I do question whether she is even serious. First, she has a backpack on. Maybe you try removing that before wedging yourself through a tight space? She looks like one of those rude people whose backpack hits those around her when walking down an aisle because they are too self-centered or oblivious to remove it. Second, maybe use this moment as a wake-up call to take control of your body?
If I was running for Congress, my pet peeve issue would be preventative health. The obesity around us amazes me (and the reason for that, ranging not just from a lack of self-discipline, but due to food insecurity and food deserts and the prohibitive cost of preventive healthcare, cries out for a far greater emphasis in terms of public policy).
Every time I cover a story like this, I think of the analysis below by Bill Maher. With malice toward none and charity toward all, I admonish us all to take care of the only body we have. The best way we can do so is by eating right, exercising, and sleeping. And let us not embrace the confusion of calling such efforts hateful—
He’s spot on. Every member of the human family should be afforded dignity and respect, but this idea that it is cool or fashionable to be obese is a destructive and perverted form of wokery run amok.
Ok, I’m stepping off the soap box.
As for Olivia, recognition of the problem is the first step toward recovery. People are not laughing with you, but at you. In all sincerity, don’t wait any longer. I wish you all the best.
I’ve covered this issue before in different contexts:
- Plus-Size Brazilian Model Claims Qatar Airways Told Her She Was “Too Big For Coach” But Airline Says She Was “Extremely Rude And Aggressive”
- Passenger Of Size Demands Larger Seats On Taxpayer’s Dime
(image: @BigCurvyOlivia / TikTok // H/T: PYOK)
Awesome. Get morbidly obese, complain. Don’t try and solve the problem she brought on herself.
She probably won’t be alive to complain for much longer.
What’s funny is how you talk about it like she thought the whole thing through.
Don’t worry, she won’t be there to weigh down your “skinny plane” when it crashes anyway because you’re in it. 😉
If the airlines want skinnier people riding their planes they should stop feeding them slop at the troughs before they get on the planes… How many fast food places can you count in an airport?? BUT HEY FAT A$$, LOSE WEIGHT ANYWAY. You guys must really hate yourselves when you look in the mirrors… yep, mirrors…
She’s pathetic. Let’s stop making excuses and just call her what she is.
Absolutely pathetic, I’ll offer her some free advice. Eat less, exercise more.
That thing is not a mere “plus sized” person, it’s a Chevy Tahoe trying to squeeze into a Polaris aisle. Of course that’s going to be tough.
We’ve found the next target in Ronda santis’s war against woke… anyone with a BMI over 30 in Florida goes straight to jail… that’s how he’ll finally beat Trump!
Good.
Much like his war against the trans/pedophile issue he’s justified.
Wait till he goes after 40 year olds living in their moms basement… bad news for you
There aren’t many basements in Florida.
Oh so edgy.
The left has the lamest jokes which is ironic since they are the joke.
Is that supposed to be your attempt at comedy? I’d suggest you stick to attacking trans people, drag queens, women, and anyone else that frightens you as you are clearly such a weak, weak, person.
Heil Koggerj! Of course, and in this war against the trans/pedophile if that filthy Michelangelo dares set foot on the land of freedom that is Florida, we are going to rot that obscene Italian in a jail surrounded by crocodiles.
get your head out of the glue bag Billy Bob. The rest of the world shouldn’t accommodate a person with zero self control.
How big do you get to be and still expect airplane accommodations to be comfortable? I would say the person holding the seat beside her, unaware of the situation they are walking into, has much more to complain about.
I would say she probably thinks the world revolves around her, but I realize that small objects probably orbit her body so it may be understandable why she thinks that way
That’s exactly who I was thinking about! The person sitting next to her (hopefully not).
I guess she has figured out how to defy the laws of physics so she can have enough room to “fly”? F-her. However, this is the culture your kind (Matt) praise and virtue signal for.
She would probably eat the laws of physics instead
One cheek per seat??? DAFQ???
Bill Maher is insightful and funny as a classic liberal comedian. Great piece, thanks!
That being said… I do think that the narrow aisles on planes are unsafe and while it helps cut our ticket prices down a bit, it makes it difficult to evacuate the plane in an emergency but also on a daily basis, the FA’s trying to push through a 150lb cart risk hurting people whose body parts protrude into the aisle (including small children.) At least 6 inches more leeway would make their jobs a heck of a lot easier.
The obesity epidemic is due to the way Americans market food: It’s cheaper to buy in bulk including delicious, fatty stuff. I remember a few months ago about some guy bringing a rack of ribs and fries onto his middle seat on Spirit airlines. It probably only cost him about 25 percent more to nearly double the portion. In Kitchen Confidential (the PERFECT book to read on an airplane!), Bourdain says that when he guest chef’ed in Tokyo, he imposed upon diners American portions which made the Japanese uncomfortable because they felt obligated to “clean their plates”. It’s something I strive to teach my daughter as well: Estimate the amount of food you want to eat, control your portions, and if you want more, go back for seconds. “Doggie bags” used to be for people who were ashamed to admit they overordered so they’d tell the host “Can I take this home for my dog?”
Americans also eat out too much and I could “trigger” a lot of folks here as to some of the sociological reasons why. Ahem, I’ll hint and observe people used to eat homemade food cooked from scratch. This limited “treats” (since someone had to bake them), and there were no preservatives. It’s strange that the more “unhealthy” things I cooked at home from scratch, the more weight I lost!!! It wasn’t a luxury in the past why so much food was homemade, but that came at a particular social cost.
My American sister screamed at me that I was cheap because I shared a plate with my (future wife) at restaurants on dates. Hey, an extra plate (and a little extra tip for the waitress) and we both finished the food without needing a doggy bag.
My wife initially balked I was cheap (claiming it’s from the German side of my family, Guten Abend, Matt’s wife!) in that I don’t like blowing $50/person at restaurants on a regular basis for food I can cook at home. I cook at home and we enjoy smaller portions. No “doggie bag.” We also save a lot of money from days off and vacations and “rainy days”. A friend of mine just got laid off of her job and I said I thought she was loaded because she drove a nice car and had a McMansion. “No, we spend all of our money. I can’t sleep at night.”
Living frugally also helps my mind to stay alert. I run a tally of how much food is in my grocery cart and the cost in my head and when I get to checkout, I can instantly see if I’ve been overcharged and my budget.
When I met my wife in Ukraine, she used public transportation to bring home food. EVERYTHING she ate she had to carry for about 30 minutes walking. That means a lot of junk food got left behind. There’s nothing like asking yourself if you need 4 bottles of sugary soda when dragging them up 7 flights of stairs…
The aisle’s are not the issue as on the vast majority of planes flying, i.e., narrow body planes those aisles have been that size forever. As flight attendants typically say “No, the seat is not getting smaller your rear-end is getting bigger.” Now people’s grievance can directed at some of ridiculous seat pitch levels now seen at 28″ – which is just torture.
She is 730 lbs, according to her TikToks…
Serious question… I’ve been on regional jets where people have to move seats due to weight and balance issues. What if she’s on an RJ? Do they account for people that weigh as much as 4 regular size people?
One of the problems here is that the Grievance Industrial Complex, Fat Person Division, has made it their cause to promote women like this (they don’t do this for men) as quite healthy so your first problem, Congress Critter Klint, will be to get them to simply admit that this is unhealthy. Quite a task. Getting them to act on it will be somewhere down the road.
You know I think the concept you bring up is valid.
I think the term “Grievance Industrial Complex” is incorrect overall.
Wasn’t the term first popularized on the military-industrial complex? Meaning the symbiotic nature of the military and manufacturing/service industries that supplied them (or were customers when it came to wars over bananas?) cascading over time to every increasing demand and production?
In this case, I think it’s more the “Grievance Social Media Complex”, maybe with some “Advertising” mixed in the fund the relationships growth?
Everyone complains, and always have. Most people (and those that are like them) are the center of the universe in their own eyes, so *their* complaints are valid and worth addressing, others’ may not be.
But in today’s social media supersaturated entertainment/advertising environment, complaints (inflammatory or insubstantial) get shared more easily, faster, without thought or consideration, and across a larger audience to find sympathy or commiseration.
So the people who complain get rewarded with social media attention and support, or get to play victim, and the social media encourages it in a way to allow for more eyes on advertising.
So the real complex here is better described as “Grievance Social Media Complex”, and the current culture we have for that kind of situation. And it applies to everyone.
Nothing better than the Grievance Industrial Complex but please call us by the name everyone knows..THE DEMOCRATS
They must have learned it from the Republicans lol
gop doesn’t base their entire political platform on fake issues like “Trans rights” and non-existent “systemic racism”.
No, just gun rights and god and women’s rights. Ya know, pick your angle. It’s there on both sides. Luckily I choose the middle (like most Americans).
Meanwhile as she passed each row and passenger, every last one went from a tense clenching to crossing themselves and promising to whatever Holy being they worship they will lead a devout life, knowing she was going to occupy somebody else.
The South Park episode parodying Honey Boo Boo comes to mind. “My fat makes me sassy!”
Call her what she is, Shamu
She could stand to visit Dr. Now
She had someone video her struggle specifically to generate controversy. The whole thing is a purposely planned click bait.
Of course, it is. Still worthy of a discussion, though.
But you don’t have to provide her name so she receives the clicks she so desperately wants. By naming these idiots, you give them the publicity they crave, and you only guarantee that we have to suffer more and more of them. You are responsible for that. Stop doing it.
I’m a liberal Democrat and I can’t stand fatties with an entitlement complex. I had to grow up with one and lost all tolerance for people like that at a young age. Simple way to do this is to Spin The Wheel: go past 150kg and you need to buy an extra ticket. This woman, according to her SickToc, would have required 3 tickets under that sensible rule. And if you don’t want to get weighed before boarding? You don’t board. Simple, Fat Karen.
I was at the doctor’s this morning for an initial consultation prior to a routine colonoscopy. I’m 50+, male, not overweight, work out daily, low-carb diet with no processed foods or refined sugars, no alcohol. First time seeing this doctor and the resident she works with. What struck me is how surprised they were at my minimal level of prescription medication (blood pressure only) and general lack of adverse health indicators. When I told them that I walked the 50 minutes from my house to the hospital rather than drive, in order to get some fresh air, they were even more surprised.
How sad that the expectation (and experience) seems to be poor lifestyle and poor health, not good lifestyle and good health. Part of this is genetics – thanks mom and dad, grandma and grandpa – but a whole lot of it is lifestyle. Fat-shaming is insulting and cruel, but co-signing bad diet and lack of exercise does no one any favors. We can blame the American fast and processed food industry if we want, but choices do exist and it’s up to us to make good ones. Keep those aisles where they are…
Model???? Model of what???
Tents
The two most obese states are the 2 Kentuckys followed closely by the rest of the southern states. Florida is actually an outlier among the southern states.
Is the second Kentucky part of the extra 51st-57th state that Obama has visited?
Plenty of room in an LD3 for her. Never mind the cold, she’s well insulated.
I have to admit I feel discomfort seeing people this large in public, but I also know, from experience and research, there are circumstances at play, in people’s lives who are obese. Like my sister. A 1980s Kaiser study shows there are underlining conditions such as childhood trauma. https://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1951240,00.html
Has she considered checking herself in as cargo?
It’s probably illegal to put whales on cargo holds in 37 states
She’s the real widebody aircraft here. I wonder if her digestive tract is twin aisle as well?
it’s the J-ISH way. And since they control the mass media – in all editorial positions of note (Not just ownership) – ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, NY TIMES, Yahoo, etc……their way, is OUR way more and more…growing the past several decades. A global way?
any slight – BLAME someone else rather then self-reflect. You’re an anti-vaxxer! You’re an anti-_______
this program will be coming to an explosive ending around 2030…stay tuned.
One cheek per chair? at 600lbs? Jeez she needs a LD39 not a Polaris chair.
“the reason for that, ranging not just from a lack of self-discipline, but due to food insecurity and food deserts and the prohibitive cost of preventive healthcare”
On the one hand, at least you are willing to recognize that…on the other hand…
“With malice toward none”
LOL ok…
Sticking to the subject, it isn’t discrimination, it’s about airlines trying to pack in as many seats as they can in the space that they have.
I don’t think the engineers had elephants in mind when they designed the aisles.
Do you run spellcheck before posting? “Tok Tok”, “United Airless” at start of article?
Grammerly too.
I think she’s the one who sat next to us on a Charlotte to Des Moines flight a couple of months ago. Actually, the one who did come slogging down the aisle somehow managed to get her arse planted in an aisle coach seat. Two belt extensions went about halfway across her lap so she covered it with a coat. Thank goodness. We might not have been allowed to take off if the FA’s had noticed. But back to the video: There’s no way that woman could fit into any airplane seat no matter the class. Did she have to buy two tickets? Three tickets? Imagine sitting there and watching her come down the aisle toward you. Terrifying.
I’m fat(300 lb) while I’m at the lounge before boarding I put some butter over my clothes and have no problem going down the aisle
Here’s my problem with her. She singles out United as if Delta and AA don’t have narrow aisles in their fleets. But Delta and AA do as well as United. She wouldn’t look stupid calling out United, but she does when she singled out United. The difference between calling out and singling out is that calling out involves acknowledgement that competitors share the same issue.
Let’s fact it – anyone with eyes knows what is going on here. The “elephant in the room” (literally) is just a fat slob who has no consideration for anyone else, much less for herself. She is beyond “fat”- she has made herself obese by her own hand (and mouth). I imagine that there is no form of transportation (car, van, SUV, train or bus) that is constructed that can accommodate her self made girth. Her public transportation options are limited – all because she can not/will not put the fork down. She deserves no special consideration – she is what she is, and society should not have to change because of her self made size.
Sometimes people are over weight because of medical issues. I won’t judge anyone for their size without knowing the cause.
But I do think backpacks should be off shoulders when in the aisle.
And shouldn’t she be suing the plane manufacturer? Not the carrier?
Watch TV in any other country in the world and you’ll see the difference in how Americans are marketed to consume.
Go eat in a restaurant in any other country in the world and you’ll see a huge difference in portion sizes and healthy foods.
The obesity epidemic here is due to the brainwashing of people from the time they can see bright colors on screens and billboards.
Work/Consume/Die
I don’t want to be behind this person during an evacuation. Would she (and her backpack) even fit through an over-wing exit? This is a safety issue.
Obesity is a disease. Stop shaming fat people, they have enough problems. That said, I believe people should accept responsibility for their own aberrations. If you look different than the majority of others don’t expect special treatment. This goes for trans people too. We are happy to accept you as you are but no one owes you an accomodation beyond “safety” ( for want of another word) How you present yourself to the world is a choice. Choose wisely.
Obesity may be a disease in the technical sense, but for many it is caused by destructive lifestyle choices. Simply reducing it to “disease” makes victims out of people who are not victims.
With that said, do you think we should make accommodations for alcoholic and drug addicted passengers on planes? That we should somehow make them an extra row, sans other passengers, to accommodate their actions as a result?
They need a sizer at the gate for passengers, just like they have for luggage. If you cant fit through the sizer, you pay for a second seat.
This is absolute genius. GENIUS!
I do feel sorry for fat (morbidly, obese) people. They can be the nicest people. But for their own health benefit, the only thing that will save her and make her feel better both physically and emotionally, and socially are the new medications that promote weight loss. Hopefully, she can get to a doctor very soon to have one prescribed for her.
I am 5’11 and all legs, are airlines discriminating against me with their lack of legroom in economy? I can’t change my height! (I say this in jest)
As someone who has been obese as a child and took it upon myself to lose 100 pounds with exercise and eating better (and kept it off for over two decades) she needs to come back into reality. The world will not adapt to you, you need to adapt yourself to the world. I am guessing being fat is her ‘identity’ online now, so she will never change
Obesity is a disease cured by the afflicted EATING ONE LESS CHICKEN.
We live in a Clown World.
SMH
Or, just don’t fly. Then, one wouldn’t have to put up with fat and stupid people.
I’m obese too! And you know what? I GO TO THE GYM. And I don’t complain about “aisles being too small, seats being too small”…I actively hat antifatphobic activists who make me look a lazy victim who’s unable to take car of myself…
Obesity is not a disease, you dont catch it,you eat it !
In fact you eat everything you see ….
You are responsible for your size, not the airlines. You are morbidly obese. Find a good nutritionist and personal trainer and get down to a normal human size. And, stop blaming your lack of self control and out of control eating issues on someone else by threatening to sue them. You are responsible for you…. NO ONE ELSE!
@bigcurvyolivia
WFPB for the win.
While I find the author and many of the commenters fat-reactive comments unproductive and myopic. It is undeniable that airline seats and the aisles have been reduced over time and due to consistent overbooking, flights are fuller than ever. I have rarely seen any passenger over 6 feet all or over 200 Lbs comfortable in an airline seat and United Economy seats are particularly egregious. I am “plus-sized” and will choose extended legroom or upgraded seats when they are available or reasonably priced, but when I travel for work these options are not always part of our travel allowances. Planes are SMALL even for ‘average’ people and flights/seats are certainly not getting any cheaper. There are no reasonable accommodations built into the airplanes and even purchasing additional seats sacrifices safety while doing nothing to increase actual comfort.
Whole food… does not mean a whole lot of food. And, plant based does not mean an entire plant.
Actually, on a whole-food plant-based diet, which emphasizes vegetables, fruits, nuts, seeds, and whole grains (and minimally processed foods made from those), and recommends against animal flesh, dairy, added oils, added sugar, added salt, and overly refined food products, you could eat all day long; you’d get full and satisfied long before you overloaded on calories. So yes, a “whole lot of food.”
You probably wouldn’t want to eat the “whole plant” most of the time, though, e.g. woody stems, bark, etc. 😉
Honestly it’s discrimination that airlines can put more legroom in planes in 2023 (just kidding of course).
Personally I think that, while everyone has (or should have) the free will to do what they want, there are consequences, good and bad, for everything, and this is something she has brought on herself.
Additionally, everyone has to do their part. If United won’t change make the aisles wider, then maybe she has to do her part to fit in the aisle if it bothers her that much.
Mooooo! Put down the fork!!!
People here are rather cruel. There are many people who are obese through no fault of their own. BUT, to expect the airlines to create wider aisles for her defies all logic. What if someone is twice her size (they do exist)? Is the airline to be expected to have aisles wide enough for an 800 lb. man? Of course not. Her claim is absolutely ridiculous.
Her claim is a joke. Without knowing why she is obese, these posts say more about the posters than they do about her.
So everyone ignores the fact there is such a thing as “chubby chaser”.LOL.The cook at one of my family’s restaurants years ago was rather plus size,her husband was like the most handsome Czech jockey player you ever saw.
I grew up in Florida but have spent the last 15 years living in Switzerland. I was just back to Florida and it seems like every time I go back, the sight of obesity get’s clearer and clearer.
The interesting thing is that in Switzerland, a teenager is more likely to be snacking on a banana rather than a bag of chips. The mindset is just different.
We need to end this idea that one can treat their body with no respect, yes, respect, and then call it “body positivity”.
Just to let everyone know, this video, was edited, and stolen from an online model named Boberry. That fake account edited and stole her content while trying to hurt her. That original video of her walking in the plane is originally about her sharing her tips for traveling when fat. But as I can see, people only care about what they see, and not what is the truth.
How was it edited? Can you include a link to the original source?
Her videos and images were stolen and the captions and text were added. Her name isn’t even Olivia. Maybe you should have fact checked first.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12101227/amp/Plus-size-influencer-targeted-TikTok-scammer-stealing-videos-posing-her.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1772272/tiktok-plus-size-influencer-content-stolen/amp
nybreaking.com/plus-size-influencer-targeted-by-tiktok-scammer-who-steals-her-videos-and-poses-as-her/amp/
Rich coming from Daily Mail, which was my source for the original story.
I had what served to be a really nice guy, but way to big to stay in his own space, occupy the middle seat of my last fight. If he were any bigger I would have refused to get up to let him in. I getting to the point of not allowing others to infringe upon my space. It’s their lack of self control or care about their health and I’m not going to inconvenience myself to accommodate their personal neglect. Seriously, why should I suffer because they didn’t care. No more.
Reportedly fake:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12101227/Plus-size-influencer-targeted-TikTok-scammer-stealing-videos-posing-her.html
Personally I think this a great way to get people to pray more. Have you ever listened to the people around you when a morbidly obese person starts walking down the aisle “please dear G-d not by me, not by me, I’ll give more to charity, anything, but not by me”.
Wider isle =skinnier seat unless she’d like to pay for new planes?
She’s a selfish prick.