The reason this is occurring is that all Award trips are priced on an O&D basis. For these particular itineraries there is no availability (award or revenue) on an O&D basis. The cost that is being returned is the sum of the local segments, which have availability, but in essence require the customer to purchase two OW tickets JFK-ATL and then ATL-JNB, instead of one to JFK-JNB.
You called it an unannounced “devaluation”, but I would suggest this is consistent with the way we’ve priced [revenue] tickets for years.
But up until recently, we could get around the broken website with the aid of agents who would book award flights into a higher booking class so that each flight in a multi-segment itinerary would be of the same tier and price as a single award. The ability to do that is now over.
Practically, that signifies a huge devaluation for those in the know who were able to reference the award chart and work with agents to ensure that a one-way award really did not price more than the award chart specified. We really are now at the mercy of the automated pricing system.
Can You Use the Multi-City Search Tool to Get Around This?
Delta.com offers a multi-city award search tool, but it will not help you. In fact, don’t use it — it used to be a nice tool but now works horribly, pricing anything you search for separately as a separate award.
Say you want to travel from Los Angeles to Perth on Virgin Australia and use the multi-city search tool to search LA to Sydney, then connecting from Sydney to Perth immediately after arrival. If the search works (often it simply doesn’t and you get the error message below), it will price the awards separately — 80K for LAX to SYD and another 40K for SYD to PER. Had you just searched from LAX to PER, the award would price out as 80K for both segments with the connection in SYD.
Not working for even simple and straightforward partner itineraries, the multi-city search tool is certainly not a way around the issue I have outlined above.
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Nice piece.
I guess my question is, if they are going to do this in bits and pieces with ridiculous approaches, why not just rip the bandage and go full revenue-based?
The more I think about the actions of this team, the more I believe their actions are shameful. If they aren’t going to make an announcement about it they have to know that it’s shady to do. It doesn’t hurt those in the know like readers and writers of this site – we know we can just move our business.
However, it is damaging for the unsuspecting occasional traveler that is loyal to Delta for years and makes them THEIR airline with simple expectations – moderate flying every year on the same airline leads to an occasional free ticket.
With their new earning devaluation (on international itineraries a devaluation of 6-9x) and then the massive devaluation of the award chart (40-100% higher), and then now this (add 20-50%) they might as well shutter the program. Except they won’t now, because it will be hugely profitable for them under the auspices of their previous relative value. For some travelers its up to 18x worse than it was before. Stealth changes highlight that they know most casual travelers are just not going to look into the changes or see what is going on.
If miles are a currency (the EU ruled a couple of years ago that they were) then they basically have officially become the Zimbabwean dollar but people are still collecting them like they are pesos.
Four hours?!?! You are far more tenacious than I (which is saying something)!
@Tiffany — four hours indeed! No exaggeration. I wanted to verify once and for all that it just is not impossible to override “Skynet” anymore.
It took Delta three-weeks to respond to my questions, so I have to imagine that the quote above was very carefully worded and confirms officially what you wrote about last month and what we all have been noticing for the last several months.
Could you book out most of the JFK-ATL flight first cabin, leaving only a single F seat available which would then presumably be Tier5 and thus pair with the JNB segment? Then cancel your paid F dummy bookings.
This totally jibes with what I’ve been seeing recently with Delta. I’ve had to fly for personal reasons between NYC-CVG which is an absurdly captive market for Delta, thus the fares are always ridiculously high (I don’t think I’ve seen a coach fare below $500 r/t since I’ve started going to CVG). Whenever I try to use miles, even if the non-stop flights are the cheapest options in terms of money, they are almost invariably priced at a higher mileage rate than flights with connections. On the one hand this could be for revenue management reasons, since even if two or three weeks out there are lower fares on the nonstops than the connections, Delta knows they will probably sell close to all of the seats between NYC and CVG by flight time, and for a super high price to boot. On the other, its incredibly frustrating to use miles to avoid high fares for such a short domestic flight to begin with, and jacking up the mileage prices on the nonstop flights only adds insult to injury.
THIS is what I think we should all fear with the impending AAdvantage devaluation, as opposed to a move to a revenue-based scheme. AA has already planted the seeds of opacity with Level 3 AAnytime awards, where no chart or calendar is published to suggest what the required mileage levels are, or when they apply. I could see Doug Parker effectively imposing a blackout on routes and dates that people actually want to redeem with a ridiculous, unpublished mileage requirement, while spinning the move as a “market-driven, customer-focused enhancement” by allowing you to fly to Wichita Falls at 10:35 P.M. on a Tuesday for 5,000 miles (no offense meant to the fine city and citizens of Wichita Falls).
“The Seeds of Opacity” would be an awesome name for a rock band.
To be honest, it’s shenanigans like these that forced me to move to American Airlines. Yes, I have to make a connection for every flight, pretty much guaranteed, but i’ve come to love first class on the commuter flights that are small jets. You get personalized service and a cocktail. Love it.