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Charlie Kirk, Free Speech, And The Reckoning Of Words

Matthew Klint Posted onSeptember 20, 2025September 20, 2025 66 Comments

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“But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.” — Matthew 12:36

Charlie Kirk, Free Speech, And The Hard Work Of Civil Discourse

Charlie Kirk’s assassination was a moral horror. Full stop. I mourn a life cut short, a wife widowed, and children left without a father. Violence is never an answer to speech, and the moment we normalize it, we all lose. In the fog of grief and rage, though, I want to say something that might sound unfashionable in our era of instant verdicts: Kirk did some things right, and he said some things plainly wrong. If we’re going to honor truth and preserve a culture of argument over violence, we need to be capable of saying both…while keeping Matthew 12:36 in view for ourselves, not only for our opponents.

What Kirk Got Right

Kirk showed up. He debated. He engaged hostile rooms and stayed for Q&A. That takes courage in today’s climate, and it models a kind of democratic muscle memory we badly need. As Ezra Klein argued in the New York Times, you can dislike much of what he believed and still recognize that he practiced politics “the right way” in at least this respect: persuasion over force, argument over ostracism. Showing up is not everything, but it is not nothing. Our republic depends on people who will stand and speak instead of sneer and silence. This interview with Bill Maher is a perfect example of what Kik did right:

“But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.” — Matthew 12:36

What We Must Call Out

To praise a virtue is not to whitewash a vice. Some of Kirk’s rhetoric was reckless and needlessly divisive. Consider his widely circulated line about airline safety and diversity efforts: “If I see a black pilot, I’m gonna be like ‘boy, I hope he is qualified.’” (full context here) That isn’t merely controversial, it’s offensively ignorant. It smears an entire class of professionals who meet rigorous, uniform standards, and it invites suspicion when there is no valid doubt that is justified, as far as I can see. In an industry built on checklists, training hours, and recurrent proficiency checks, casting doubt on a pilot on sight is the opposite of truth-telling; it’s sowing distrust. Worse, it tells young black aviators that no amount of excellence will pierce the cloud of your suspicion. There are more examples, but I wanted to focus on the travel-related example here.

Words matter. They shape what we notice, how we treat each other, and what we permit ourselves to believe. Matthew 12:36 is not a cudgel for “the other side.” It is a mirror for all of us. When any of us—Kirk, his critics, or me—reach for cheap applause lines that flatten human beings into propaganda, we will answer for it. The standard does not bend simply because we think our policy goals are noble.

“But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.” — Matthew 12:36

Free Speech Without Favors

Kirk was a fierce proponent of free speech and railed against “cancel culture.” Here’s the irony of this moment: in the days since his murder, some of his loudest political allies have seized on the tragedy to demand firings, blacklists, and government pressure against speech they consider offensive. That is not a defense of free speech, it is a perversion of it. Jimmy Kimmel’s comments about the reaction to Kirk’s death were crass, and I won’t defend their tone. But the remedy for bad speech is better speech, not network suspensions under the shadow of political muscle. If Kimmel deserves suspension, let it be for poor ratings, not for uttering words we dislike.

When government officials or their appointees even hint that regulators should punish speech or lean on companies to do it, they cross a bright line. You cannot save free speech by using state power to punish speech. That lesson should be obvious to everyone who loved Kirk’s style of showing up and arguing. It should be obvious to those who cheered his death online, too. The cure for our cultural sickness will not be firings, blacklists, or federal threats; it will be the steady, patient practice of civil discourse.

“But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment.” — Matthew 12:36

Where We Go From Here

We can hold two thoughts at once: political murder is evil, and some of Kirk’s public claims, like casting suspicion on black pilots, were shameful. We can admire his willingness to engage and reject his careless words. We can defend robust free speech while opposing state-backed efforts to silence dissenters (including critics of Kirk). In other words, we can do the hard work of citizenship.

I find myself where Ezra Klein landed: on the side of argument over annihilation, of persuasion over punishment. Not because I agree with Kirk on policy: we agreed on many things and disagreed on many more things, but because a politics that requires perfect agreement before we agree to talk is a politics marching toward the abyss. If we care about truth and neighbor-love, Matthew 12:36 tells us to start with our own tongues. Then keep showing up. Keep listening. Keep arguing. And refuse to trade the hard value of conversation for the cheap thrill of retribution.

Requiescat in pace, Charlie. May God have mercy on us all—and may we carefully measure our words.


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66 Comments

  1. JRG Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 3:58 pm

    Three police officers killed in Penn. No 1/2 mast flags across America for them. But Kirk got that honor. A political pundit.

    Sad that he was killed; a good father and husband, and he certainly did not deserve what happened to him.

    • Pete Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 4:07 pm

      MAGA has little respect for police or the law, and flags at half-mast are reserved for courtesans of the Mad Orange God King.

  2. chris Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 4:30 pm

    Big surprise you’re calling someone you don’t agree with “ignorant” when you are clearly the ignorant one. If you don’t admit DEI, which focuses on the color of a person’s skin before the person’s competence, irrefutably opens the door for hiring less qualified individuals over more competent, then you are either willfully ignorant or just outright dishonest. Which is it, Matt?
    “If we care about truth and neighbor-love, Matthew 12:36 tells us to start with our own tongues.”
    Please practice what you preach, Matt. And stop your insufferable self-perception of being so much holier and more virtuous than people like Kirk who actually was honest and far more enlightened. As opposed to yourself.
    Be better.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 4:39 pm

      Are you being deliberately dense? There’s a baseline of competence that every pilot must meet to be licensed, whether red, yellow, black, or white. There are no relaxed standards for black pilots…they must pass exactly the same tests and certification that their colleagues do and to suggest otherwise shows a profound level of ignorance and gullibility, as if “competence” in selecting candidates is objective. I’m actually not in favor of DEI…but that doesn’t mean I have any reason to question the competency of any pilot who holds a Part 121 licence…

      • Steve Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 5:28 pm

        So you’re saying two people that passed a certification one with higher score than other are both equal? On paper both pilots passed the tests and hold the licenses but to claim both are equal because they met the bare minimum to qualify is pretty disingenuous. DEI allows a lesser pilot to be hired over another simply based on race and if you’re a company trying to comply with ESG guess what happens? DEI and its affirmative action predecessor have left people with doubt as to whether a person is really qualified or not. DEI policies get people killed. Look at the black hawk pilot over DCA. Do we know if she was certified to fly because she was really qualified or simply because she was female and her scores were good enough. Even if she had high scores do we know if she really earned it or simply got advanced because the instructor didn’t want the headache of not passing a female pilot. DEI policies raise these types of questions which never get answered and people are afraid to ask questions for fear of being canceled.

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          September 20, 2025 at 5:32 pm

          You’re the one making these allegations, not me…you prove what you are contending. Give us all specific examples of standards being lowered for black pilots.

      • Alert Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 5:54 pm

        @Matthew … The best pilots are the old ex-military guys who like a drink or two : they are the top-guns of aviation.

        The younger inexperienced ones addicted to mushrooms are the ones to avoid .

        Myself , I never heard of Charlie Kirk before , and Jimmy Kimmel was a moron to stir up a frenzy about a vile tragic crime .

        And now Jimmy is performing as a big “crybaby” , and dems are praising his crybaby-ness .

      • David McCray Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 7:03 pm

        Matt, this is simply not worth arguing. As a Black Civil Engineer who has traveled the world several times over, who has never been arrested and who has no criminal record, let me tell you that you are banging your head against a wall. When I pass the PE exam to be a professional engineer, I take literally the same exam that my White classmate takes. But I will not be viewed as his equal simply for ONE reason: COLOR. And that’s fine because I fully understand that some people, such as Charlie Kirk, validate what Malcolm X told MLK: A subsection of White people will NEVER EVER view us as their equals no matter what we freaking do.

        • Alert Reply
          September 20, 2025 at 8:15 pm

          Well said . Yet I cannot imagine such a situation . Perhaps it is best to simply ignore the whole stupid thing .

      • Al C Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 7:31 am

        You’re the one being dense. DEI and affirmation action by definition allow some people to be passed or promoted just based on their skin color. That logically raises concerns about how well these people will perform their job. Just passing a certification exam is the lowest bar and doesn’t mean you’re good at your job. And so shameful for you to be criticizing a man before his body has even been laid to rest. That’s especially shameful since you consider yourself a fellow Christian. Your article should have stopped after the first sentence. Your own careless words will be used to judge you – take the plank out of your own eye!

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          September 21, 2025 at 10:27 am

          @Al C: I know you’ve been fed a certain set of talking points, but try to think a little more critically here. Imagine pilot school like a game of musical chairs. There are many, many players and only a few seats. It’s reasonable to oppose admission policies that say, for example, the white guy and the black girl are both qualified, but we’ll take the black girl purely for the sake of diversity (economic advantage or disadvantage strikes me as a far better metric for breaking ties). But once in the school, every student must take the same classes, pass the same tests, and do the same training. There are no shortcuts for “DEI” students; there’s just baseless innuendo by race peddlers who deep down believe that black/brown/female people are inferior to them.

          And your pathetic, “And so shameful for you to be criticizing a man before his body has even been laid to rest” does not honor the memory of Charlie, who bravely voiced his view and was not easily offended…his answer to speech was more speech. Try not to misappropriate Christ Jesus as if he spared hard truth when it was necessary (Luke 12:49-56).

          Veritas…the truth will ultimately prevail.

          • Alert
            September 21, 2025 at 12:14 pm

            @Matthew … And the black girl may be superior to the white guy because the black girl is more desirous of success and doing things correctly .

            The white guy may be a foolish pot-head and/or a know-it all who tends to cut corners .

  3. JoeMart Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 4:42 pm

    Galatians 5 expands on your biblical quote.
    16So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. 17For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. 18But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
    19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    • Alert Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 8:17 pm

      So anything wrong with some co-educational fun ? News to me .

  4. chris Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 4:44 pm

    And also, Matt lies about why Kimmel was fired and what he said that forced his suspension. He was ultimately fired for exactly what you said he should be fired for: dismal ratings. Private companies, not the evil Orange Man, decided to not keep a guy who was losing audience/money for years and Monday’s outright slanderous lie about a group of people and his refusal to apologize/retract the slander/lies was just the final straw and excuse to let the raving lunatic go. And as for what he said, Matt will only go with Kimmel’s words being “crass”. They were lies. The shooter was not MAGA and by Monday night that was clear to every honest person. Again, Matt is either being willfully ignorant or blatantly dishonest. Which is it, Matt? If it’s willfully ignorant, do at least show a little personal pride and do your own minimal research before mindlessly regurgitating your team’s dumb/false talking points. If you’re just dishonest, well, that’s a character issue that will take far more to fix.

    • Aaron Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 5:06 pm

      Someone has been drinking the MAGA talking points koolaid…

    • Alert Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 8:20 pm

      If Jimmy had been smart he would have known to not follow the script of his writers , no ?

      So , if he is not so smart , then he is merely another empty vessel talking too much .

    • Gene Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 9:18 pm

      @ Chris — You know you are lying. A true coward.

  5. DWT Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 4:52 pm

    Thank you, Matthew- for your rationality in these times

  6. Dublin Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 4:53 pm

    Oh boy. Matt I fully respect your rights. It’s your column. You can write anything you want. Your column your rules. Totally agree with that. But on the same token…
    I can go to any columnists and bloggers political page and read something very similar. I come to live and let’s fly for timely articles, reviews, some good discussion on something controversial that may have happened in the travel industry. It’s a great way to escape the mundane and the craziness in the world. So when I see articles like this, I just think to myself …..why. Is this really necessary?
    Again, your column and if I don’t like it, I’m free to click away. But I like your stuff. That’s why I come here. I just don’t wanna read about political issues on Live and Let’s Fly. My two cents. And as it’s your column, you don’t even have to print this and if you didn’t, I’d understand why. But…I’m pretty sure you will.
    Keep up the good work.

    • KL Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 8:41 pm

      Dublin—what exactly is your issue with what he wrote though? Kirk famously talked about how he doesn’t trust black pilots due to their race. This is completely relevant to the topic of travel.

      • Dublin Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 8:56 am

        Fair enough. But one sentence about travel does not a travel blog make

  7. Anonymouse Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 5:06 pm

    Several points:

    * Kimmel got yanked not because of government pressure but because ABC affiliates Sinclair Broadcasting and Nexstar (who provide ~80% of ABC’s nationwide coverage) refused to carry his show in light of his comments. The affiliates dropped him before the FCC commented. The decision was part political, part business: the affiliates are politically conservative, but also Kimmel’s show had low ratings and the affiliates did not think it was prudent to alienate over half the country for a show nobody watched. ABC dropped him because without affiliates to broadcast the show, there was no way ABC could make money off of it, especially with its low ratings. Also, Disney exec Dana Walden, who’s making a play for CEO, signed off on the decision because of concern about market backlash from conservative viewers (Disney owns ABC).

    * Legally, no free-speech concerns are implicated by Kimmel’s dismissal. Aside from how the decision stemmed from private and not public action, the FCC is permitted to regulate broadcast content because open-air broadcast frequencies are public property. That’s why networks can’t start airing hardcore pornography or snuff films. Airing hardcore porno or snuff films on public airwaves would not be in the public interest–parents would object to their kids turning the channel and seeing that stuff. The FCC grants networks a monopoly on those frequencies and jams competing broadcasts in exchange for a promise that what’s aired is in the public interest.

    The FCC has no regulatory power over cable content or content not aired over public airwaves, such as on streaming platforms. Major distinction there.

    * Socially, the general value of free speech isn’t implicated by Kimmel’s situation, either. Sinclair and Nexstar shouldn’t be forced to broadcast speech they find offensive. ABC is permitted to act in its business interests. And Kimmel’s value is as an entertainer based on the content of his speech (and not a very good one, judging by his ratings). Nobody need listen to him if they don’t want to.

    Shohei Ohtani also spoke critically of Kirk’s presumed political positions and isn’t going to face major social repercussions–he’s too good of a baseball player, plus his value is in entertaining by playing baseball rather than entertaining by speaking. So most people will continue to associate with him because the value of doing so is worth more.

    * On Kirk’s statements about black pilots, it’s a fair point and not one borne of racism. If black pilots are being hired under lower skill standards because of DEI efforts, that means not all black pilots will meet the ordinary level of minimal skill required for the job. It would be racist if Kirk held that view absent the relaxation of hiring standards under DEI rubrics, but he expressly conditioned his view on that phenomena.

    And the uncertainty over whether blacks meet those standards is grossly unfair to blacks who definitely do, as prominent black intellectual Thomas Sowell has pointed out. My first law-firm mentor, who is black, had to deal with it, despite (1) coming from a prominent legal family (his dad was fairly high in the DoJ and a former BigLaw partner), (2) winning an award from his prominent undergrad engineering program for engineering grades (engineering courses are blind-graded), (3) turning down Yale Law School for a full ride at another top school, (4) being selected as a SCOTUS clerk. Same thing with my black girlfriend, who works in medicine with a master’s degree (and has some choice words for black folks who don’t take their education seriously).

    Relaxed standards for a specific group especially hurt those in the group who would meet those standards normally, since others may rationally wonder about their qualifications.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 5:10 pm

      Appreciate your comment…but several flawed premises, most notably that if you listened to his extended clip on black pilots, he specifically says because of United’s DEI policies, he has reason to be alarmed if he sees a black pilot. No, sorry. That’s absurd and no one can prove any standards were lowered…it’s all baseless speculation. Black candidates must pass the same tests as everyone else. His point is wrong and yours is too.

      • Alert Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 6:03 pm

        @Matthew … The best pilots are old military guys who like a drink or two : top-guns .

        The worst pilots are young inexperienced ones who eat mushrooms or are pot-heads .

        I had never heard of Charlie Kirk before , and know nothing about him .

        Jimmy was a moron , and Jimmy is now a big crybaby .

      • Anonymouse Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 7:42 pm

        I don’t know enough about pilot qualifications to comment in detail. But if Kirk was mistaken in his belief that pilot-qualification requirements were lowered because of diversity-hiring practices, that would mean his reasoning was flawed because of flawed premises.

        Yet him making a mistake in reasoning does not mean that he’s a racist, only that he was mistaken in understanding airline hiring practices. His conclusions do flow from the premises.

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          September 20, 2025 at 11:15 pm

          I never called him a racist…

        • Aaron Reply
          September 21, 2025 at 3:33 am

          Based on his many other comments, he could certainly be classified as racist.

    • Aaron Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 5:39 pm

      If nobody was watching the show, how was it going alienate over half the country?

      • Anonymouse Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 7:47 pm

        Because TV viewers upset at perceived false comments about Kirk’s assassination could voice their dissent at Sinclair/Nexstar for continuing to air the show of someone making such comments. Given that Sinclair/Nexstar are politically conservative anyway, they probably decided he wasn’t worth the hassle, especially with the paltry ratings.

        • Aaron Reply
          September 21, 2025 at 3:32 am

          But as mentioned there are no TV viewers since the show was barely watched, as per the original comments.

          • Alert
            September 21, 2025 at 9:01 am

            Touche .

  8. derek Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 5:12 pm

    Biden did equality a disservice when he said that he will pick only a woman for VP. Made Kamala seem like a quota recipient. Biden did it again when he said he would only pick a black woman for Supreme Court Justice. A definite DEI hire even if her qualifications were strong. So Kirk has some merit in not knowing about the black pilot. In reality, the black pilot is fine. All the certifications are the same. Pilots can get training in many ways, not like a physician who has to go to an accredited medical school.

    I never heard of Charlie Kirk before he was killed. Yes, I heard of the name but knew nothing about him. His killing actually raised awareness of Kirk.

    • derek Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 5:30 pm

      Oops, did not proofread so the idea conveyed is not clear. There are many routes to become a pilot, such as the military. If a black person doesn’t become a pilot by one route, they have another. Certifications take various routes into account. I have confidence in the system.

      In contrast, physicians have only one route, medical school, unlike pilots. But that isn’t relevant and the mention only adds confusion to my original comment. Doctors have multiple levels of certification, such as having to pass medical school, pass USMLE steps 1, 2, and 3 exams, get into a residency, which can usually be choosy, especially for surgical fields, pass residency criteria, pass board certification, etc.

      • Alert Reply
        September 20, 2025 at 8:25 pm

        If a doctor or pilot has trembling hands , a nervous demeanor , and looks somewhat furtive , he is basement level .

        If a doctor or pilot is mature , self-confident , and experienced , he is on the higher level .

        There are many levels .

  9. Sloan J Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 6:26 pm

    Idiotic topic to bring up on a travel site. You are part of the problem in a never ending cycle of trying to get clicks.

    You should know better Klint.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 6:56 pm

      You new here?

  10. Maryland Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 7:29 pm

    I’ve followed Kirk since 2018 and he was charismatic. He had a synergistic relationship with the trump family. At his young age able to deliver the young Christian voters trump could not have made loyal.

    Kirk through TP USA, encouraged clean living and strict values. He denounced those exceedingly racist and kicked them out. I am trying to showcase the best of Kirk. He never had a chance to grow in or away from politics. And that is a shame because he might have been the next contender.

    Trump doesn’t like those that speak their mind and would be happy to pull broadcast licenses from all those that challenge his evermore deranged attempts to deflect the incompetence of his administration . Kimmel was in his way..

    Rest in peace Charlie.

    • Aaron Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:37 am

      He made many racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc comments. And not to promote discussion but because he actually believed the thinhs he said. I mean, the guy supported The Great Replacement Theory, for one thing…

      • Maryland Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 9:37 am

        Aaron, I know some things. Kirk said were awful, and I most certainly didn’t agree with him. As he has not been laid to rest, I only wanted to include the positive thoughts. One thing I will add now, I believe there is evidence Kirk was deceived by Trump’s campaign from October to February about something I will share at a more appropriate time.

  11. KB Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 7:54 pm

    I appreciate you trying to tackle this and largely agree with your sentiments. Violence, threats, and intimidation have no place in our society and politics.

    I think it is important that we don’t clean his reputation beyond what it actually was.

    Charlie’s views on free speech weren’t that simple. He created the professor watchlist, which the website is still live featuring a video of him. It attempts to name and shame professors who work on such questionable things like Feminism, LGTBQ, Covid-19, “Climate Alarmists”, and many others. The point of this website wasn’t to foster or engage in free speech and debate. It was to silence people with fear and intimidation. Professors on this “watchlist” are terrorized and Charlie did nothing to stop that.

    What we have seen since his tragic death is a continuation of this legacy. Today in America, people fear losing their jobs for utilizing their free speech because this administration will penalize their employer until they are fired.

    Sure, he would say what he believed to anyone regardless of the response. That takes courage, and were any these “debates” ever in good faith? No one came to that with a mindset of being open to new ideas and changing their minds. The intent was to pummel your opponent and then make a video of them looking stupid. That isn’t the kind of discourse and use of free speech that we should celebrate.

    I wish Charlie had survived to see the hate and bigotry he sowed be rejected en masse by this country. I hope I will see that rejection in my lifetime.

    • Alert Reply
      September 20, 2025 at 8:11 pm

      People in Hawaii have never heard of him . Perhaps he was a social media creation of his own making .

  12. Gene Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 9:23 pm

    @ Matthew — The real problem is that 130 Americans are shot and killed EVERY DAY in America. This Kirk guy that I never heard of should get the same treatment as the rest — a funeral. When America promotes hate and guns, this is the tragic consequence.

  13. MaxPower Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 10:14 pm

    You got enough heat from everyone. I’ll just say thanks for the article and opinions, Matthew. I thought it was well-thought out and interesting to read.
    Charlie Kirk did NOT deserve to die but there is an enormous amount of blackout going on about what he said and believed in his life.
    A college dropout like Charlie Kirk criticizing a Harvard Law Review Editor as a diversity hire…

    “If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”

    She isn’t a justice I agree with 100% of the time but jesus. the guy just loved to be a bigot about skin color.

    I appreciate that he went and debated but the guy doesn’t need to be venerated as some kind of hero and it’s disgusting that tomorrow’s memorial looks like a state of the union speech for attendance and that DoD members’ free speech is being monitored and punished over… not anyone in their chain of command, but a political commentator.

    He was a college dropout convinced that successful black women could never have been successful off their own brains. Good for him for creating an entire organization like he did but let’s call a spade a spade.

  14. emercycrite Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 10:20 pm

    Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences.

    • Aaron Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:34 am

      It is from the government.

  15. Not Douchebag Dave Edwards nor Sch*tt Hsuan nor Dirtbag Derek, Obviously He/She/They/It Is Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 10:30 pm

    Kirk murder = karma. He reaped (extreme hatred) what he sewed (hatred, bigotry, lies, conspiracy theories).

    Kirk murder = helpful in exposing MAGA stupidity and hypocrisy in all its disgrace and shame. Kirk’s and other MAGA hateful racist language and lies and conspiracy theories = free speech and attempts to control it = “cancel culture”. Now, MAGAs are screaming from the rafters to cancel Jimmy Kimmel and terminate broadcast licenses for anyone or any company that criticizes MAGA. Doubtful Kirk’s killers will get a pardon like the same way the Jan 6th cop killers and rioters got.

    (Nice to NOT see the usual moronic koolade drinking vitriol from Douchebag Dave Edwards and Sch*tt Hsuan, maybe we’ll get lucky and Dirtbag Derek will also crawl back under his/her/its/theys rock.)

  16. Andy Reply
    September 20, 2025 at 11:49 pm

    Appreciate the calming of the waters Matthew…and yet, I find it naive to think that his rhetoric was not escalationist and violent unto itself. He encouraged violence too in his own language and rhetoric. We are human- our behaviors often live downstream from language. The laws of free speech are intended to circumvent our human wiring and play an evolutionary role in our humanity. But as much as that may be true, the laws of physics also apply. An action produces a reaction. The same can be said of the backlash to Obama that led Trump to power. This is where I think it is sensible to tie his horrific killing to his rhetoric. He was killed in an atmosphere of hate and division that he himself created, in a country flooded with guns that he advocated for. There is aspirational thinking and hope, and then there is boots on the ground- which Kirk and his allies are very tied up in.

    But I do agree with you that it is fearful for all public figures now. There is always someone who will disagree with you now, and now they might feel more emboldened.

  17. Sexy_kitten7 Reply
    September 21, 2025 at 1:35 am

    expletive deleted

  18. Aaron Reply
    September 21, 2025 at 4:01 am

    He realy wasn’t the patron saint of free speech, engagement, debate, etc. He was a bigoted snake-oil salesman who used free speech as a shield to get away with saying his vile comments and nasty views.

    https://www.salon.com/2025/09/17/how-debate-me-bro-culture-ruined-civil-discourse/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/sep/20/charlie-kirk-debate-style

    And the fact that people are exploiting his death to clamp down on free speech and push cancel culture (wasn’t the conservative against cancel culture?) is alarming.

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/ng-interactive/2025/sep/21/us-right-free-speech-charlie-kirk

    • Alert Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 9:06 am

      Neighbors and I had never heard of him . So , If we had never heard of him , and no one watched the Jimmy show , then what is this whole broo-ha-ha ? Likely nothing to see here .

      • Alert Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 9:09 am

        Actually , it might be better to regard this entire broo-ha-ha , and the characters , as fictional , to be ignored .

        Many of us have a real life to get on with .

      • Not Douchebag Dave Edwards nor Sch*tt Hsuan nor Dirtbag Derek, Obviously He/She/They/It Is Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 10:28 am

        In Q2 of 2025, Jimmy Kimmel Live! averaged 1.77 million total viewers and 220,000 viewers in the key 18-49 demographic.

        Charlie Kirk 500,000 donors who gave $85 million, another grifting (lying, bigoted racist) Jim Bakker or Elmer Gantry. He got what he deserved.

      • Aaron Reply
        September 21, 2025 at 10:53 am

        As with many of your comments, what you just said proves nothing. You and your neighbors not having heard of him isn’t some type of smoking gun you seem to think it is.

        • Maryland Reply
          September 21, 2025 at 11:53 am

          Thank you Aaron. I dislike responding to the constant disruption of some daily script it continually repeats.

        • Alert Reply
          September 21, 2025 at 12:24 pm

          @Aaron … It means that to many people Kirk was non-existent or had no influence . If but a few people knew about him , or followed him , that does not mean much in the greater scheme of things . Trump has elevated him in the press as someone with important influence . But Trump is wrong . People don’t live their lives based on who Kirk is. Jimmy Kimmel’s writer caused Jimmy to join a non-existent battle of inuendo or emotion , which stirred up others .
          People are more apt to live their real lives , not this tragic nonsense . And all political violence is tragic nonsense .

          • Alert
            September 21, 2025 at 12:41 pm

            The USA ought to always denounce any political or religious violence , and any political or religious inflammatory rhetoric .

          • Aaron
            September 21, 2025 at 3:00 pm

            So now the strategy is to downplay how big he was? The guy was worth an estimated $12 million, ao enough people must have know who he was. Unfortunately, he must have had some influence given how many followers he had before his death.

          • Alert
            September 21, 2025 at 3:11 pm

            Having a lot of m0nbey from an owned “non-profit” does n9t make one a influence . Charismatic Slicksters also get a lot of money , yet they do not have influence with the Astute Non-Gullible observers such as you or I .

            Perhaps his donating followers were following a charismatic “salesman” , selling his “need” for their donations to his “movement” , no ?

            If I am forced to donate , I will donate a few foreign coins of no value .

  19. PM Reply
    September 21, 2025 at 1:48 pm

    I’m tempted to agree with @Alert here in that there’s no benefit in getting involved in culture wars, although it may be too late for those of you in the USA because the culture wars have basically taken over politics there.

    However, I can’t help but note the irony that, unless I’m seriously misremembering and Wikipedia is simultaneously misleading, the latest mainline jet crash where the pilots were black was the 2019 one involving the ET MAX which was attributed to the dodgy management of an iconic US company which has only ever had white CEOs!

    • Alert Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:16 pm

      @ PM . Thank you .

      If this sort of “non-profit-salesman” fellow , became wealthy from “donations to his movement , then we are indeed near a “too late” stage .

      When politics becomes a lethal , violence-prone series of “Crusades” , then we are indeed near-hopeless .

  20. Chi Hsuan Reply
    September 21, 2025 at 1:57 pm

    Did you just cite an unfunny turd losing his talk show as a free speech issue?

    I distinctly remember you not saying a word when Trump was deplatformed, which just supports my belief that your support for the first amendment is conditional at best.

    • Alert Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:27 pm

      @Chi … Correct . Jimmy was a scripted irritant written by an anonymous “writer” with a cause to promote to a mob.

      Television shows have also become empty vessels masquerading as important . Otherwise known as propaganda .

      Likewise televised political “debates” , where the questions are fed to the participants beforehand by sympathizers .

      Jimmy’s crying is nothing about “free speech or press” ; but everything about entertainment big bucks .

  21. Not Douchebag Dave Edwards nor Sch*tt Hsuan nor Dirtbag Derek, Obviously He/She/They/It Is Reply
    September 21, 2025 at 2:30 pm

    Sch*tt, mind boggling that you think anyone here gives a flying f-ck what you believe, you arrogant narcissistic perverted sociopathic POS. BTW moron, your hero was deplatformed for spews lies and hate and conspiracy theories, basically yelling “fire” in a crowded movie theater, which is and should be a legal and legitimate reason to deplatform anyone.

    Douchebag Dave Edwards & Sch*tt Hsuan & Dirtbag Derek, proving with your every (too frequent) comments that your nicknames are absolutely accurate and completely deserved and that you have nothing better to do with your pathetic waste-of-oxygen lives than to post abhorrent and revolting comments here over and over again every single day. Thank you for confirming once again that you and other MAGAs are stupid hateful racist cretins. Trolling or not, the extent and frequency of your comments are indicative of severe psychiatric and/or addiction problems. Your insults, undoubtedly projection, speak much more to your lack of character than to anyone you attack. You should crawl back under whatever rock you crawled out from you SHPOSs.

    • Not Douchebag Dave Edwards nor Sch*tt Hsuan nor Dirtbag Derek, Obviously He/She/They/It Is Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:01 pm

      Typo, should be “spewing”, in his case the rantings and ravings of a stupid cognitively impaired nasty hateful lying racist.

    • Chi Hsuan Reply
      September 21, 2025 at 3:09 pm

      Learn grammar bitch boy.

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