Silence is golden.
That’s my motto when I fly. So I applaud a captain on American Airlines who warned a pack of pro-Trump passengers shouting “USA! USA! USA!” to shut up or face removal.
A member of the “party” reported on Twitter that the captain threatened her and others during a flight to Phoenix. Either pipe down or face an ejection in Kansas, piped the captain (it isn’t clear why he chose Kansas as the drop-off point…).
Wow. I’m on a plane full of patriots flying from DC to Phoenix and we started chanting “USA” …and the Captain came on said told us he’d drop us off in Kansas if he had to if we didn’t obey their every single rule.
American Airlines is everything but American.@AmericanAir pic.twitter.com/duFt2W90cc
— Mindy Robinson 🇺🇸 (@iheartmindy) January 8, 2021
An airplane is not the time for chants of any variety that obstruct other passengers from quiet enjoyment of their flight. It is selfish, rude, and wholly counterproductive.
And while I acknowledge my voice is small and my platform limited, let me just speak to the many conservatives who supported President Trump and are dismayed at the way the election has turned out. Don’t sell your soul to the devil.
The insurrectionists who vandalized the U.S. Capitol are not conservative. They are idol worshipers, worshiping a cult of personality around Donald Trump. Sure, there were some Confederate battle flags and U.S. flags in the group that raided the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, but did you notice how many Trump flags there were? Did you notice there was not even a published Republican Party platform in 2020, with leaders noting that the President would set the agenda? These people pledge allegiance not to nation or party, but to a man.
To all the decent, honest, patriotic folks who supported Donald Trump: is this who you want to be lumped in with? Do you support a constitutional form of government or a demagogue who plays upon our worst instincts to pit one against another? The violent white national extremists who breached the U.S. Capitol are seditionists who must be condemned and held accountable for their actions.
It is your constitutional right to redress grievances against your government by protest. It is quite another matter to vandalize and ransack the very edifice of that nation you seek to conserve.
For those who embrace law & order, please understand that the President’s legal team had opportunity after opportunity to present evidence of election-altering fraud to sympathetic courts with Republican-appointed judges. But it didn’t work. Is it really more likely there was a grand conspiracy against the president than that this was another close election in a divided nation and Joe Biden narrowly won (though by a bigger margin in battleground states than Trump won four years ago)?
But I’ll stop. I tried. I’m sure I’ll be told I just simply do not understand.
But can we at least agree on leaving people alone on a flight? Silence really is golden.
These people just make you cringe – how embarassing for them.
This was kind of an interesting aside that I did a double take on:
“The insurrectionists who vandalized the U.S. Capitol are not conservative….Sure, there were some Confederate battle flags…in the group… but did you notice how many Trump flags there were?”
Are you at acknowledging or positing that Confederate battle flags ARE indeed a symbol of conservativism?
conservatism*
10 year olds without adult supervision..
Oh wait.. The pilot is an adult
An airplane is not the time for chants of any variety that obstruct other passengers from quiet enjoyment of their flight. It is selfish, rude, and wholly counterproductive.
So true. Those shouting pro-Trumpers remind me of my time substitute teaching middle schoolers. Seventh and eighth grade students, upon seeing a sub in their class, would imagine a day of ‘partying’ with a goal nothing would get accomplished. In the first few minutes of class I would hand out lunch detention notices to a couple of students. Sometimes a student would warrant a trip to the principal’s office. And, this, in the first five minutes of each period. I always zeroed in on those who wanted uninterrupted learning no matter who was standing in front of the class. Rude, selfish, inconsiderate, and disrespectful disruptions were squashed for those who were there to learn.
Those shouting pro-Trumpers were acting like inconsiderate children who only wanted to be seen as part of the mob. Notice me, notice me, they all seem to be communicating to the detriment of all the other passengers who didn’t want to hear their views.
No, they are flags of violent sedition
I get it, but it sounds like you were equating confederate battle flags with regular old conservatism, to contrast them with all Trump flags which are equated with a personality cult (the latter of which I agree with).
Birds of a feather flock together.
So it’s ok though to loot businesses, take over cities and burn down buildings?
The looters did not kill a cop or Tazer themselves to death.
Ignorance is a CHOICE, you and his followers wear theirs for all to see.
Hint: you were conned and exposed.
Ironically, unlike Flight 93, this plane full of terrorists was able to successfully destroy the Capitol
Interesting . I thought this was travel and not political blog
Matthew, a great and rational argument as always.
The problem with these Q Anon / fraudulent election / white supremicist types is that they are divorced from reality, and live in their own reality they create in their minds. Facts, science, reason, data, etc. – none of it works as long as they keep believing in their conspiracy. It truly is a mental illness.
Fortunately their “leader” has just had his ba!!s chopped off, so hopefully some of their “passion” may die down in the coming years.
You are deluded. You cried for 4 years about russia collusion, election interference, illegitimate president, and look the other way for a year during leftist riots. Now when legitimately the right calls out election interference (there was plenty of evidence, of widespread fraud, and even social media companies committed more interference than Russia could have ever hoped to do) and protests for a couple of weeks, you people lose your shit.
And this blog. I’m just done. You go political too often for no reason. You had no problem with BLM/antifa/leftist protests on planes…ever. Nobody needs this info for travel. You don’t even give good travel information anymore, just lame coffee reviews and ass kissing of FAs. I’m done. Enjoy your leftist circle jerk.
Enjoy Parler, chump! Oh wait, whoops…
Oooh. The little Trumpette is throwing himself out with the bath water.
No worries we know you will be back here as your favourite hate spreading site is no more.
So many thoughts on this. What a bad moment for us as a country. 75 million people voted for him. I really would like to believe more than 74 million of them right now are saying I cannot support this man.
And…STFU on an airplane. I don’t care if it’s USA USA or Notre Dame Notre Dame….shut up. Respect other peoples right to sit without being bothered
Any outright chanting, be it pro Trump or BLM, should be banned. It’s a public space in a confined area. Have respect for people who want to just enjoy their flight without all the politics.
I wonder how well these people would take it on their flight if a bunch of people started chanting BLM slogans.
Identity politics is out of control
Thank you for posting this! We all need to speak out against this threat to our democracy at every opportunity at least for the next two weeks. People were told lies over and over until they were believed. We need to counteract these lies by speaking the truth over and over to have any hope of return to normalcy.
What’s wrong w idol worship?
Or false prophets?
1st Commandment… “You shall have no other gods before me.”
@Matthew
You are one of the most despicable human beings on the planet.
“That’s my motto when I fly. So I applaud a captain on American Airlines who warned a pack of pro-Trump passengers shouting “USA! USA! USA!” to shut up or face removal.”
These people had the right to shout out USA, USA, USA. Where is your sense of patriotism? You know the election was rigged against President Trump, and if you and your readers are honest enough, they will admit the TRUTH!
“The insurrectionists who vandalized the U.S. Capitol are not conservative. They are idol worshipers, worshiping a cult of personality around Donald Trump. Sure, there were some Confederate battle flags and U.S. flags in the group that raided the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, but did you notice how many Trump flags there were? Did you notice there was not even a published Republican Party platform in 2020, with leaders noting that the President would set the agenda? These people pledge allegiance not to nation or party, but to a man.”
These “insurrectionists” we left with no choice. When an election is stolen from you, courts throw out cases due to “lack of standing” and not merit, election laws changed months before an election, forensic audits denied (if Sleepy Joe won, then what’s there to hide?), the media turning a blind eye, social media silencing and canceling you if you disagree, what do you expect these hard-working American Patriots to do? Are you that clueless @Matthew or are you afraid that your readers will cancel you out as well? Grow some balls @Matthew and speak truth to power!
“As for the enemies of freedom, those who are potential adversaries, they will be reminded that peace is the highest aspiration of the American people. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it; we will not surrender for it, now or ever.” – Ronald Reagan
none of what you just wrote is accurate or factual.
There’s no reasoning with the delusional.
Running around with an American flag and shouting “USA USA USA” doesn’t mean the persons doing such rally cries can’t be seditious, insurrectionist scoundrels, material supporters and sympathizers for such criminal trespass/sedition/insurrection.
Remember the saying “‘patriotism’ is the last refuge of the scoundrel”? I hear that. The rest of the world hears that. And the people – and the people who stormed the Capitol will hear all of us soon — when it’s the USA vs _____ [name of Trump-supporting criminal] in a federal court case near those anti-US constitutional scoundrels.
Mohammed-Your viewpoint is delusional. Thank you Matthew. I do not want to hear your shouting about ANYTHING on a private flight.
If it was stolen from you, Where’s your evidence son. 4 years ago a gold haired individual collaborated with the enemy of the state to hack in to our system and rigged votes while Hillary Clinton had more votes, should the democratic supporters have cried foul as well? Maybe they should have stage a riot at the Kremlin.
Politics is dirty, Mr MAGA started it, get used to it. He is just being our manoeuvred this time.
I tend to agree and also think that any announcement about sports or cheering people for their teams should be dealt with in like manner. Equality for all.
I’m sure you all said the same thing while the riots were going on over the summer.
Good luck! Boy are you wrong. Guess you will find out soon just how much you are talking about yourself. But hey, let’s all unite because you and your side are so accepting and nice. Just listen to yourself. All of these lame comments are just that, except I agree with not being boisterous on an airplane. Although I was travelling on a plane years ago that had an excited, winning soccer team on the plane. They were cheering for a bit, and then it ended. So big deal. None of us complained. It ended.
Hi Mohammed, let me break it down to you like a 2 year old. If you want to chant, celebrate or idolize any cult or free expression, charter your own airplane. I did not pay for my flight to hear you loudly express your personal opinions in my private paid for space. Get it?
“You are one of the most despicable human beings on the planet.”
Really… a travel blogger with interesting insight and travel news.
Hmmm…your bar is interesting. Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein…and Matthew Klint.
Congratulations Matt! You made it to the big time!
Seriously, have a coherent thought.
Had multiple opportunities to show evidence but haven’t. Get over it. He lost the election because of his handling of the pandemic he ignored. First it was a hoax by the Democrats then it was the Chinese virus.
The truth is his incompetence in serving his position and total disregard of his Oath of Office. When it’s said and done his followers will find out he was a pawn of Putin’s.
“Mohammed Schlappig” is a troll, plain and simple, and of course not a real name/person. It appears to target travel bloggers that ‘dare’ to delve in to politics.
Maybe a Russian provocateur, but we have plenty of homegrown bad actors, not to mention just plain idiots. So it could just be another extremism coward.
And of course no shouting of any kind in an airplane, regardless of the ‘lyrics’.
Mohammed (if you are a real person and not someone behind a computer outside Moscow): Proof, please, that the election was rigged. Verifiable, irrefutable, documented, actual proof. And the chanting is just playing at being patriotic. Devotion to the ideals of the country and helping to make it better – that is patriotism.
Reminds me a bit of Berlin in the 1930’s. The chant then being, “Sieg Heil.” The cry of cultist nationalists for their idolized false prophet.
This was not the Olympic Games. Or 9/11 need for unity. It’s pure hate and bile when they chant it after what they did Wednesday.
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Here we go again with the “literal Nazis” trope…
That retort worked ok enough up until January 6th…not anymore, insurrection defender
So, taking over police stations and trying to burn down courthouses is A-OK with you as long as it’s to fight “systemic racism” and looting is simply well-deserved reparations? I don’t condone what happened at the Capitol, but you shouldn’t condone what happened in the “Summer of Love,” which harmed far more regular folx. Throwing around the “Nazi” epithet doesn’t help anything and just makes obvious that you are a ridiculous person. BLM, on the other hand, proudly proclaim that they are Marxists hell-bent on transforming American society.
Ah the cultist comes
Back with its long debunked talking points. Keep drinking the Trump Kool Aid
You mean, “we told you so.”
YOU SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You all are the “enemy of the people” All brainwashed halfwits. You must all work for CNN. As I said earlier, @Matthew needs to grow some balls and speak truth to power! Our voices will not be silenced!
A commercial airline’s flight is neither a public street corner nor public space. There is no requirement for a business to tolerate all the speech and expression which the government must tolerate under the 1st Amendment that restricts the ability of the government — not private sector businesses — from prohibiting protected speech/expression.
Apparently your voice was silenced, by the captain lol.
no shirt, no shoes, no service.
what’s with the handle? is it a ben schlappig reference? and if so why mohammed?
I’m curious.
I don’t prefer my flights being a loud rally, even when it would involve nothing more than a rally cry which I would support under other circumstances/at other venues.
Now only if Indian carriers also would get some captains to get in on the action of stopping the “Jai Hind” screams on some of the flights full of pilgrims. And while at it, maybe some of those Hajj-flights to Saudi Arabia can also get some more peace and quiet too, since I’ve heard some of them can get rather noisy at times to with rally cries of sort too in-flight.
And maybe
The Georgia secretary of state stuxk his neck out resisting the trump led mafia.
He was protecting democracy and should have been supported better. Heroes when they stick their necks out are left by themselves to fend off an organized and criminal attack. America stop navel gazing an d looking for perfection before you step up to help. Support heroes that stand up to fascism. This airline captain is another.
Death to nazis and their leaders and supporters.
Here is a crowd funded effort of identifying people.
The capitol police officer was murdered
https://mobile.twitter.com/No_Nazis_Please/status/1348037973938475010
Trump hasn’t spoken to the officers family yet. Trump turds, continue thinking he gives a shit about you.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_moment_officer_brian_sicknick_is_dragged_into/
Brad Raffensperger and Brian Kemp should both be removed from office immediately and sent to a maximum-security prison for their treasonous acts. Anyone who doesn’t support Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States of America. He won the November 3rd election by a lot. You are all far-left zealots. Wake up and smell the roses you pathetic fools. Stop being brainwashed and wake up! Wake up I tell you!
Good post Matthew
@Mohammed Schlappig (troll), Trump himself has called Wednesdays mob criminals, so it not just the ‘leftist’ media……
@Matthew, where were you in the summer when cities were being burnt and people died, lost their business they had worked up all their lives,you lose any credibility when you go after one side,btw cheering America is not a Trump thing it was a thing every American did untill recently when it came a thing to hate on their own country, when it’s them letting you write your blog without being censored, you should live in a different country for a few years to see why people do chant usa
Damn right it’s who I want to be lumped in with you know-nothing blogger.
@Tom you are a “troll” You are trying to suppress me until I shut up. Well, I have news for you. I will not be silenced. I spoke the truth! You are a crooked person who will burn in hell one day for what you and all the liberals on this site did to President Trump!
Great nom de troll. Part muslim and the rest stolen from Ben over at OMAAT.
@mohammed – As you mature, you will begin to shed belief in unsubstantiated claims such as the existence of hell or widespread voter fraud. Just because your mother indoctrinated you to believe in hell doesn’t make it true no matter how many times you’ve been told of its existence. One should read both sides of the story, which is difficult to do.
Brave. Nicely said as well.
@Matthew – this video references “Pence Treason”, directly connecting to many insurrectionists live claims about hanging Pence, Trump sycophant Lin Wood calling for Pence’s execution, etc.
Just might want to be mindful of what’s being posted.
All these trolls incessantly bleating about the stolen election, somehow miss the fact that a few down-ballot races actually went the Republican way. But nope, those are totally legit, nothing to see there, move along.
(btw it’s funny when the few tiny examples of real voter fraud do exist, they somehow end up being Republican – NC-9, the three individuals outed in PA, etc.)
Thank you from the silent majority for your common sense observations.
I have spent a lot of time deadheading and have heard captains give PA announcements. My one single conclusion is that it generally is an annoyance to the customers. Some are golden voice and get to the point. Others not so. As a professional the less said the better. Today everyone is on their own platforms listening to exactly what they wish. Pure freedom. The last thing any customer wants is a distraction. This may come from an overzealous group of sports fans, shriners, a ball team, spring breakers. We are all human. For a captain to threaten to divert a plane for passenger outbursts in beyond me. How many paying passengers were coming from the rally? This was not hooliganism it was emotional outburst and harmless. I agree it is annoying but no more than listening to the captain detail the weather when we are all getting better more up to date weather on our devices. Matt I loved those 1011 pictures. stick with travel news and steer away from the political as it is destructive.
https://rumble.com/vau48d-biden-comment-about-voter-fraud-organization-garners-attention.html
https://rumble.com/embed/v87y1p/?pub=4
Well said Matthew. You have nut jobs like Sarah Sanders complaining she’s losing 50k followers a week in social media blaming on left censorship. Hilarious. No maybe it’s due to social platforms finally taking a stand people waking up from their 4 year slumber. There is no place in this country for what happened and tweets about hanging pence. I never agree with the man but like George W I do believe him to be a decent man and truly has what he believes is the best for this country at his heart. Trump never did and never will. He is a petulant narcissist who will get what’s coming to him after leaving office. To all you MAGA, he doesn’t care about you. Half of you would be better off supporting the democratic platform. This country now needs to heal.
Hopefully AWS de-servers this trash too
It was brave of you to jump in – the safer route professionally was to stay on the sidelines. Some here will agree with your words and likely always have. Some won’t and never will. When Trump had a voice he and his cohorts battered the left. With power reversed the left has to be better than that and try to help reorient the willing on the right that find themselves without an island. There’s an old saying – you can only hold a bird with an open hand.
Agreed. Good sentiment. The whole, don’t return evil for evil but return evil for good.
@Shawn you are pathetic swamp!
@UA-NYC hopefully the “tech giants” delete you from the face of the earth. People like you are scum.
You may have won the battle but President Donald J. Trump will win the war!
Go self-flagellate you sicko
If any Trump supporters think he actually cares about ordinary people, think again.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-more-upset-capitol-mob-161414849.html
Donald Trump was annoyed by the violent siege on the Capitol Wednesday — which left several dead — because it looked “low class,” according to his adviser. “He doesn’t like low class things.”
Trump won’t pardon all these idiots that stormed the capital before he leaves office. Why? That might guarantee that Senate convicts him after impeachment.
Biden definitely won’t. That means these losers have given away 20 years of their life for an orange turd that never cared about them. Wow!
WR2 you are totally correct!!! The Liberal judges over turned any evidence of voter fraud presented!!!even with video and affidavits…….
If the whole plane was Trumpers and no one was complaining why was this a problem unless the pilot(union) was on the other side!!
PS this should be a travel site not a Political one!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again, you are really, really, really stupid, and of course incorrect:
In a remarkable show of near-unanimity across the nation’s judiciary, at least 86 judges — ranging from jurists serving at the lowest levels of state court systems to members of the United States Supreme Court — rejected at least one post-election lawsuit filed by Trump or his supporters, a Washington Post review of court filings found.
The Washington Post found that 38 judges appointed by Republicans dealt blows to such suits, with some writing searing opinions.
dee
are you saying that enclosed in an airplane is a the better place for political discourse than on a blog?
I think it would be far more threatening on a plane to disagree with a mob than on the internet.
who can say….
4 years of trump have shown people how incompetent and hypocritical white Republican males are. They have coasted in life on entrenched privilege and once it’s taken away these losers start rioting.
Really pathetic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/evilbuildings/comments/ku3dnu/comment/girpxi0
https://youtu.be/tYT8UV_OI5c
For all the children oh I mean liberals who want to read and watch more. Go educate yourself you brainwashed fools!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/us/politics/capitol-siege-security.html
Wow
This was a well planned terrorist attack. We need to mobilize like after 9/11. Anybody that contributed to them monetarily should be in prison. Their leaders, some of whom are in congress or white house need to be in prison.
Trump has said he approves or torture. So i think many white Republican males need to be waterboarded until they tell us everything about this movement. How many white Republican males can gitmo hold? Let’s dust off enhanced interrogation techniques for this scum.
“As soon as they hit the fence line, the fight was on,” Sund said. “Violent confrontations from the start. They came with riot helmets, gas masks, shields, pepper spray, fireworks, climbing gear — climbing gear! — explosives, metal pipes, baseball bats. I have never seen anything like it in 30 years of events in Washington.”
Terrorists indeed.