A California woman refused to wear her mask on Southwest Airlines flight. When flight attendants and passengers protested, she compared herself first to Rosa Parks, then Anne Frank.
Woman Who Refused To Wear Mask On Southwest Airlines Compares Herself To Rosa Parks And Anne Frank
Onboard Southwest flight 2265 from Dallas (DAL) to Long Beach (LGB), a woman was observed by a flight attendant with her mask off for an extended period. She was told to put her mask on and refused, claiming that she was “actively” eating and drinking.
A supervisor came onboard, appeared to give her one more chance to put on her mask, but when she continued to insist she was eating and drinking (holding up a water bottle at one point), the supervisor asked her to gather up her things and disembark.
She refused, asking instead for an explanation as to why she had to keep her mask on if she was eating and drinking. The supervisor was not playing that game and informed the flight attendants to deplane the aircraft.
In these situations, airlines will generally remove all other passengers in case physical force is necessary to remove the problematic passenger.
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The woman really gave herself away when she started linked herself to Rosa Parks, a civil right activist who refused to stand up on a Birmingham bus when there were seats available in the “white” section, and Anne Frank, a Jewish girl who was murdered by Nazis in Holland during WWII.
“We have to take a stand. It probably didn’t make sense for Rosa. It probably didn’t make sense for Anne Frank either.”
That prompted anger from other passengers, especially a pair of black women sitting nearby. Southwest eventually got her off, refunded her, and has banned her from flying Southwest again. The flight left Dallas 50 minutes lates and arrived into Long Beach 47 minutes late.
Invoking Parks and Frank make clear this was not about eating her bananas and apples, but about taking a “stand”…
A Southwest spokesperson noted:
“The remaining passengers scheduled to travel on flight 2265 continued to LGB, arriving nearly two hours behind schedule. We apologize for the inconvenience to others scheduled on this flight, as we worked to ensure all customers were compliant with the federal mask mandate.”
CONCLUSION
It’s so easy to insert a Karen joke here, but I won’t…there are far too many good Karens.
But what a piece of work. As much as I dislike the mask mandate ,I don’t admire this childish act of civil disobedience. If she doesn’t want to wear a mask in the final days of the mask mandate, she can drive…comparing her selfishness to Rosa Parks and Anne Franks is offensive indeed.
Meanwhile, now Europe follows actual science instead of Fauci SCIENCE and is now enjoying mask free flights in more and more routes each passing day.
And oh by the way, US is not planning to drop mask and testing requirement any day soon.
Not excusing this lady’s issues though.
That is not true. I live in Europe and fly a lot for work, and am still required to wear a mask in the airport and onboard.
Masks have scientifically been proven to reduce risk of cross infection.
There is no study that conclusively demonstrates that masks are effective at preventing spread of COVID-19 or influenza-like illnesses. Some studies even showed that cloth masks made wearers more likely to get infected than those not wearing any masks. The public health establishment operated on this basis until the “Science” somehow changed in spring of 2020. Neither masking nor social distancing did anything to stop the spread of SARS-CoV-2. Disobeying nonsensical laws meant to demonstrate state power rather than do anything to benefit the citizenry is just.
I’m normally quite diplomatic, but I’m so sick of people like you spewing bullshit like “Fauci science”. We all know, even you know, that there is no such thing. Dr. Fauci is a world renowned expert and knows more about just about everything than you ever well. He literally wrote the book that is still in use at every medical school in the United States about immunology. What have you written about immunology?
Thanks Mark. We have to just admit the 25% of this country are cruel and irredeemable people who need to be called out.
Where Fauci is a “world renowned expert,” Jan is a “world renowned Dunning-Kruger moron.”
Appeal to Authority fallacy.
Bravo! I’m so tired of hearing the whining and complaining from these immature, selfish, children who masquerade as adults all over wearing a mask. Like wearing a mask is such an imposition. Their anger and ‘outrage’ has nothing to do with wearing a mask, and everything to do with their ignorance and how miserable, angry, and unhappy they are with their lives. Stop wasting everyone’s time and safety over your lack of development.
Strange, in Europe right now and not seeing this mask free policy. Just flew in Germany and Austria and visiting several other countries. Planes were 100% masks required. Bus too. Public places a bit more mixed.
There’s about 10 or so countries that are mask free/optional right now, and more opening up. I know you’ve heard about UK, Ireland, Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Romania, Hungary, Romania right?
Dude, just stop.
You’re the reason we’re over two years into a pandemic that should have lasted 6 months.
We’re approaching a million dead Americans from a disease that’s easily prevented with common sense and personal responsibility.
Well said.
I’m fully vaccinated and have traveled the world during the pandemic, and wore masks as needed. That doesn’t mean I want to keep mask and test mandates forever like an idiot, now that Omicron death rates and total deaths plunging.
Do you want to recant your blind assumptions again about me?
No Jan, no one needs to “recant”, nor should they. Bottom line is you’re just another gaslighting dumbass. How’s that MAGA idiocy working for you?
The lady doth protest too much…
This might not be as important a fight as against American institutional racism in the South, but that doesn’t make it unimportant. Speaking truth to power requires bravery and integrity, and the cabin crew’s nonsensical persecution of her exposes the power lust and abuse I have seen so often on flights lately and exposes the absurdity of masking laws. I admire and salute her. We need more of her.
Nonsensical persecution? Flight attendants don’t get to choose which regulations and laws they enforce you fucking moron. Flight attendants can easily be fired for not enforcing federal aviation regulations. What do you think about the rules is your business but they are required to enforce them, and if you want to fly on an airlines airliner then you are required to follow those rules.
When the law of the land allowed folx to own slaves, it was the responsibility of the constabulary and the like to enforce said property rights. Surely stagecoach operators were right to respect the rules regarding slavery. Keep licking the state’s boots. Mighty tasty!
Dude, i’m not sure how you could sound more stupid and obtuse. Comparing slavery with wearing a mask is so patently ridiculous that you sound like a third grader. In addition, do you think a bunch of flight crew members losing their jobs over refusing to enforce federal regulations would change anything? No, you’re moron.
Somehow you are confusing a flight crew and their responsibilities to enforce federal regulations and the actual regulations. So would you also support someone lighting up and chain smoking during a flight? What about jogging up and down the aisle while the plane is taking off? Burning some incense to appease spirits? Pilot taking a few shots before take off? Flight attendant disabling all fire suppression equipment? Just trying to figure out where you draw the line for which rules can be ignored and which should be followed?
I agree. Too many people have strapped on face diapers like they are told. Then the author of this article thinks that it is funny to insult her… shows what little class he has too.
What part of this is escaping your tiny mind? The flight attendants don’t have discretion, get it? Calling a mask, which every single medical professional has worn for 100 years a “face diaper” just shows us where you get your “news” from. Get out of your bubble.
Simple solution. Don’t fly if you don’t like to wear mask. Complete idiot!
Another day, another hollow person spewing performative stupidity. I don’t think anyone in the world is actually happy with the mask mandate. I mean, is anyone happy paying taxes? If you don’t like then don’t fly.
That is not true. I live in Europe and fly a lot for work, and am still required to wear a mask in the airport and onboard.
Masks have scientifically been proven to reduce risk of cross infection.
“Masks have scientifically been proven to reduce risk of cross infection.”
What study proves this, Lysenkoist?
I dare you to ask all the doctors and nurses to not wear masks the next time you have a surgery. We all know you wouldn’t do that. Because you know masks work. But Fox News is telling you that they don’t, so now you’re parroting their ridiculous line. It must be incredibly embarrassing to be you on a daily basis.
Do a search on studies regarding efficacy of masking in surgical theaters and you will find that there is no evidence for there effectiveness. From one paper:
“Based upon the findings of this review, National Institute for Health and Care Excellence guidelines state that there is ‘limited evidence concerning the use of non-sterile theatre wear’ such as surgical masks when trying to minimise the risk of surgical site infection, although there was an overall ‘consensus that wearing non-sterile theatre wear is important in maintaining theatre discipline’.”
Now, this paper later states that lack of evidence of effectiveness is not evidence of lack of effectiveness, which is a reasonable statement. What is unreasonable is your blind assertion that masks work, in the surgical theater or otherwise. In Sweden anesthesiologists are not required to wear masks in the theater. Consider that preventing spread of droplets is different from preventing the spread of an aerosol. Do you have any idea how masks are supposed to work? I’ve read dozens of papers regarding mask efficacy since before COVID-19 because I was curious whether the East Asian practice of masking while sick was effective. The evidence for masks preventing the spread of influenza-like illness is inconclusive at best.
I wore masks starting in late January 2020 while traveling out of an “abundance of caution” (I was in Singapore just after the super spreader event at the Grand Hyatt) but I quickly figured out that it was pandemic theater. Mandating masks is a political power play that hurts the populace the state claims to be protecting. Bootlickers like you want to virtue signal to increase your status among your fellow authoritarian lackeys, but those who follow the actual science aren’t fooled. Keep up with the baseless insults. We need a new UA-TDS around here.
Ugh, “their effectiveness.”
Which study proves they don’t? Please stop asking foolish rhetorical questions. Put up or shut up. It’s a regulation the airlines must enforce. If you don’t want to follow rules and regulations, move on.
Search for “A cluster randomised trial of cloth masks compared with medical masks in healthcare workers” and you will see that they found cloth mask group got sick with ILI at a rate higher than even the unmasked control group.
Search for “Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures” and you will see the authors state, “In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks.”
SARS-CoV-2 spreads via aerosols, which masks, unless they are tightly fitted N95 respirators, are pretty much useless in mitigating. If you believe masks work, you must think that acrylic screens also magically stop aerosols from spreading, too. If anything, they impede air flow and make things worse.
I wish I had a link to a WHO survey of masking studies from 2019. It showed that there was no clear evidence of mask efficacy. Why do you think the WHO didn’t recommend masks for so long into the pandemic? Mandated lockdowns, social distancing and masking were NEVER imposed before in modern times. Now the world is in a rush to imitate Red China in every which way it can. Keep swallowing the authoritarian statist propaganda, though, comrade. Comply your way to liberty. It works 100%, just like the vaccines!
Good for her. Wish more people would stand up for themselves and tell these covid cultists that it’s all a bunch of nonsense at this point.
Hmm, for people who died of Covid (and still today) can we put in their obituary “it was all nonsense but see you soon”? What a wonderful life of blissful ignorance you must live in.
COVID – Real.
Vaccines – An important, useful countermeasure, but demonstrably overrated and largely becoming obsolete without an update for variants.
Natural Immunity – Underrated, but far from perfect, and it requires the caveat of having to fully experience what one is trying to prevent before it has any effectiveness.
Masks – Next to useless, especially if not the right kind, worn the correct way, consistently and with the appropriate related PPE.
Yeah, there’s a risk, and a bigger one based on a number of criteria and complicating factors. Yet, is perpetual fear our endgame here?
So your saying masks have some value. I agree.
D Pilit washing your hands frequently far outweighs masking.
So the world you’d like to live in is one where people can pick and choose which laws and regulations they can follow. Unfortunately flight attendants don’t have that luxury. They are required to enforce the federal aviation regulations regardless of what you think about them.
Yeah, don’t worry about all the people that were inconvenienced, right?
As someone who had both parents come down with covid (and one parent was hospitalized for 10 days), I take great offense to folks like you. May your health never be compromised in this lifetime. And you know what? Jesus still loves you.
Dear Avril,
As someone who was allowed to go deaf rather than be given a simple ‘day-op’ by my hospital which never went above 42% vent bed capacity ( in the nearly 16months it took to actually see me. By which time it was too late) and by going deaf lost his entire career, had his life turned on its head, had and still suffers from multiple MH issues related to a permanent and life changing event that was ( as confirmed by an audiologist) totally avoidable I’d love to point out that your complaining & claiming how offended you are about someone having a differing opinion to you just coz one of your parents spent 10 days in hospital is likely that very same thing to others who’ve read your, imho, self-centred and narcissistic comment
Hardly a unique or life changing occurance but somehow you feel it qualifies you to chastise others and be offended that anyone has the audacity to hold a contrary opinion based on one of your parents coming down with it and the other needing a week & a half in hospital. I’ve lost a good friend to cancer coz they couldn’t get seen for treatment and another who had a double mastectomy coz she couldn’t even get a face2face despite the indignity of having to webcam her boobs to her Dr and being able to show a lump.
Yes people got ill. Yes tragically some people died. You know what though. Tens of Millions more have ended their lives coz of lockdowns/ losing their jobs/ being trapped with abusive partners. Likely the same massive number find themselves like me. Life completely and irrevocablely changed by those chasing the narrative more than what they should be. But still I don’t find what I’ve been put through and continue to try & live with everyday as an excuse to claim offence or imply anyone not agreeing with me is stupid/evil/ uneducated.
Guess you just make up crap. tens of millions have “Ended Their Lives” I would assume this means suicide is a bogus claim. And just a few people have died that would be @ 1,000,000 in the US alone and 6,160,000 worldwide. This number is even low as North Korea, China, Africa as a whole and Russia are most likely underreporting. If you want to make a rant at least try and use accurate statements.
Perhaps you don’t understand the idea that ending someone’s livelihood by (unscientific) diktat is akin to murder.
“This might not be as important a fight as against American institutional racism in the South… I admire and salute her. We need more of her.”
Welp, only 7am but I’ve already read the stupidest thing I’ll see today.
We need more people standing up to tyranny and authoritarianism .
Love it.
It’s time to fight the power and get our lives back.
What’s scary about people like you is that you appear to actually believe that laws and regulations can be disregarded at will based on your own personal feelings. Do you actually think that that will work in a civilized society? I mean I know most of you aren’t that civilized but come on
If you have paid attention the last few years certain people and groups have been allowed to choose to disregard laws and regulations they felt hindered their rights. BLM protested while looting and burning down buildings as part of civil rights protests. They attacked innocent motorists and held them hostage. They tried to defend the police to leave citizens unprotected from their attacks. Al
Segregation and slavery were the law of the land. Respect the rules, comrade!
What’s incredible to me, is that you can say something so outlandishly stupid and apparently not even be aware of it. Anyone comparing wearing a surgical mask to slavery should be subjected to slavery for a while, just to see if it really IS the same.
Why accept any incursion on liberty that is detrimental to society? Mask mandates have no efficacy against COVID-19 and have demonstrated harms. There are RCTs that show cloth masks actually increased the incidence of infection with ILIs (versus no mask). Of course, insensate bootlickers don’t understand that pointing out your very bootlicking tendencies is not equating slavery with mask wearing; it merely demonstrates the fallacy behind your assertions that we must follow the rules because dems da rules.
Yes. I remember when I learned about tyranny and authoritarianism. This is exactly what I envisioned it would be.
The tyrants would ask me “will you wear a mask on the flight from Dallas to Long Beach?” and I would say “yes”. And they’d ask a bunch of times, but I’d lie every single time– “Yes, yes, yes” I’d say. Then when I got on the plane, they’d see that I had lied. Then the tyrants would refuse to fly me to Long Beach with some sort of authoritarian bullshit about “not honoring my part of the agreement”. Then in a real show of ruthless tyranny, they’d refund the money I paid for the ticket, and discharge me out into the freedom of the world where I can be mask free in almost any other place.
Sure, then I could drive from Dallas to Long Beach with my guns in my lap– these tyrants don’t restrict those kinds of freedoms. I mean, I’d still be a free person of course, and have all of my other rights, and money and stuff. I just wouldn’t the right to lie about wearing a mask when flying from Dallas to Long Beach.
We must fight against these injustices. People should not be required to honestly agree to any sort of behavior restriction on airplanes.
Please drive. Nothing like freedom of the road! I will take the plane and be v there faster. Wearing masks is a small price to pay for the freedom to be where I want quickly. BTW, do you also object to seat belts on planes, or being required to have seatbacks in their normal position on takeoffs and landings. There are all sorts of rules. This objection seems arbitrary.
“It is with unveiled faces that we proclaim his name.”
These subhumans should be liquidated.
Agree with everything except that we are in the “ final days of the mask mandate”. Unless you have information we don’t, I’m not counting on it expiring until it happens. Philadelphia just went back to recommending mask indoors and if Biden wanted it gone, he would have already.
Never, ever underestimate how much liberals enjoyed the control the mandates gave them.
@Mak and James – I get where you are coming from but what’s the point of doing it on the plane? You agreed to it when you bought the ticket and before you boarded the plane. You aren’t going to travel, You aren’t going to change anything and you are just hurting a whole lot of other people by doing what you are doing.
Protest at the airport, write you congressmen, get a petition going, but you certainly aren’t going to help the cause by doing it there.
And please don’t try and make your cause sound noble by trying to equate it to a Rosa Parks. It’s just a stupid mask.
This woman is making a mockery of the federal mask mandate, one of Biden’s greatest achievements during his first term. Mask up bitch, or get off the plane.
Agree the mask mandate that started under the orange man is Bidens greatest achievement to fate.
The guy stuck sitting next to her deserves a drink (or five) afterwards, all time great ignoring performance
We’re not in the final days of the mandate. This regime is set to extend it again. They showed their hand when they refused to even discuss changing the 24 hour testing rule.
This mandate will last until the Brandon Regime is voted out
2024 is too far away. Act now and plan to kneecap Brandon’s ability to do anything by voting out his leftist enablers in Congress and Senate by Nov 2022.
You’re currently leading in the race for the stupidest thing I’ve ever read
You are currently in the lead to take over UA-TDS’s position as the most aggressively and obnoxiously wrong commenter.
Diverging political views aside, using the term “Brandon” when everyone knows who they are referring to tells us everything we need to know about one’s maturity and intellect. Don’t forget the obligatory but nonsensical “LOL!”
Taiwan (Republic of China, not to be confused with the People’s Republic of China) temporarily banned eating and drinking on trains but has resumed allowing it. They are sensible. Taiwan goes by weeks and months with no Covid deaths and not very many cases. They do test people. Taiwan had a big shortage of vaccine early on but the supply has caught up with the population size. In addition, Taiwan is not a dictatorship rounding up people with Covid like the the PRC.
She’s an inspiration to foil hat wearers everywhere.
On a completely unrelated note… are we REALLY sure she is a SHE? Hard to tell from the picture.
Rosa Parks sat where she did with the express purpose of being arrested. When the police boarded the bus, she went with them willingly. If you aren’t willing to get arrested you’re a not a protestor, you’re a dilettante.
Retired F/A for a legacy airline with 30 yrs experience in all phases of flight and cabins: yes complain, stand your rights, get on social media. Hold signs, call ppl names. Ban the bra, stop the war, etc….but remember Holmes that covid is airborne and even if you’re vaccinated you can still get a mild form of covid and it’s variants unless you have a preconditions ailment or compromised immune system…..keep mask o. Inflight.
As a 30 year major airline captain, here’s my take on this particular Karen and all the MAGA-moron commoners here. Airline employees don’t get to choose which regulations they enforce. All these idiots on airplanes refusing to wear masks might as well be arguing with a cop who’s giving them a ticket that speeding laws don’t apply to them. It’s completely nonsensical and counterproductive. If you don’t want to wear a mask, don’t get on my airplane. It’s that simple. The persecution complex and existential struggle of good vs evil that Fox News has convinced you you’re part of doesn’t actually exist. Face it, you’re a person who doesn’t really know anything at all about immunology or viruses, and you just don’t really want to wear a mask, and you’re willing to inconvenience 200 other people because you never fully grew up. Grow up.
So, you are in favor of masks forever, Mark? Because based upon your post about virii (and this virus is never going to be eradicated), it seems you are in favor of never eliminating the mandate
Your own prejudices are on full display in your question. I never said or implied that. What I said was airline crewmembers are not at liberty to decide which rules to enforce and which ones they don’t. So when a childish MAGA-Karen decides she doesn’t want to wear a mask, we don’t have any discretion. You WILL be kicked off the airplane. That’s my main point, Fox News has convinced these people they’re in some kind of holy war, when really they’re just selfish, childish assholes who apparently enjoy inconveniencing people and being the center of attention.
You’re right, Mark. You don’t have discretion as to which regulations to follow. The issue is with the regulation itself
You also talk about preconceived bias. Look in the mirror. Yours comes off even more with your name calling. Those who resort to name calling usually don’t have the intellect to win an argument. Not sure that is a trait that a captain should have
I feel name calling for people like yourself is fully appropriate after 2 1/2 years of putting up with all this bullshit on my airplanes. You, and people like you, are apparently incapable of learning. I’m not sure how that makes me guilty of preconceived bias like you say. I’m talking about behaviors, actual behaviors on airplanes. I don’t have any bias against people until they behave like an idiot. You now acknowledge that crewmembers don’t have discretion as to which regulations enforce. So what does that mean? It means that the losers who get on and refuse to wear masks must know they’re going to get kicked off the airplane, they therefore must know they’re going to inconvenience hundreds of people. I really don’t understand how you can defend that.
“Mark” sounds like the guy who flew the Germanwings plane into a mountain. I hope someone who knows who he is reports him to the airline he works for, assuming he is actually a pilot. I’m seriously concerned someone with his apparent hatred toward half the population is flying a plane. This is a serious situation and hopefully Matt sees the danger to the flying public this guy could possess.
He is totally unhinged. Are we sure this isn’t a UA-NYC alias?
Because I and all the other crewmembers are completely sick of dealing with Kindergartners in adult bodies who think rules don’t apply to them. That somehow makes me “unhinged”. You should appreciate that we follow the rules for your safety. All of them. Arguing that somehow the person following the rules is unhinged and the people not following the rules aren’t, only makes sense in the bizarro world of Republicans.
Please resign, Marky boy, for the safety of your pax
Mark gives credence to the idea that you don’t need to be very smart or reasonable to drive a flying bus. You just need to be able to feed the dog who is in the cockpit to make sure you don’t touch any of the controls.
Wonder how her weeks going? Family must be so proud of her
I’m not from the States, who is Brandon? Is it a slant rhyme on Biden?
Comparing wearing a mask to Anne Frank, who lived in a closest in constant fear of death from NAZI’s and was finally murdered along with most of her family? Is this woman completely nuts? Rhetorical question. Unbelivealbey insulting and degrading to even dare compare herself to Anne Frank.
These people who did this comply with the mask mandate to even get through security and the whole time they are boarding. Then when they are seated or in the air decide to try and make a statement. Make it know that should a plane have to be delayed due to their feeble protest from normal departure they will be put on no fly list for a year. Should a plane have to divert or return to gate after it has left jetway they will be on a no fly list for 3 years and pay a $25,000 fine. It is stupid to have people miss connecting flights for a grown up trying to make a statement on the plane, If they feel so strongly why not comply at the entrance to the airport and see how close they get to boarding.
The next time you have surgery you will notice that everyone in the room is wearing a mask – of course you think you are much smarter than your surgeon
As I stated above, Sweden does not require anesthesiologists to wear masks in surgery. Your assumptions about mask efficacy don’t reflect the evidence base. Keep assuming and you’ll quite often be wrong. But who cares about actual science? The Science is about virtue signaling and berating the opposing tribe.
This getting rediculous. It’s a matter of HEIGENE. Kind of like pooping without washing your hands. You may have the right, but I really don’t want to sit next to you in an airplane, or eat the food you prepare, etc…
I agree with the pilot. The crew is responsible for a number of people in a plane flying at things of feet above. Concentration on safety, no mistakes, and service to customers. The people who board planes to upset this environment in the name of voicing feelings against something they do not agree with. It doesn’t matter how you feel about how s situation is dealt with. What matters is a safe trip by rolling the rules, which you agreed with before you boarded the plane. As for linking yourself with historical figures shows how stupid you can be. Don’t want to wear a mask, don’t fly. That’s all there nis to it.
I so agree! Whether or no you agree with the rules, just follow them! I went on a SW flight (to a medical conference actually) where the guy next to me stated he didn’t intend to wear the mask and then he just didn’t. I asked the crew to speak to him but they didn’t. He went the entire flight maskless and I was absolutely unnerved (because I’m over 65 and work in a hospital where WE KNOW masks work regardless of what the general public believes). This is all just a horrible time in history when public health has been politicized and people are listening to loud voices full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
Her name is M. Kerns, from OC (of course). Pathetic lack of concern for other travelers. Taking a stand (no matter how stupid) does not mean forcing other people to suffer for your politics.