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United Airlines Plans More 737 Flights From Tokyo Narita

Matthew Klint Posted onJune 15, 2024June 15, 2024 16 Comments

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United Airlines plans to base more 737 aircraft at its former Tokyo Narita hub, intending to fly to cities not currently served nonstop from the USA.

United Airlines Plans More 737 Flights From Tokyo Narita

Brian Sumers interviewed Andrew Nocella and Patrick Quayle and published a (subscriber-only) story on his The Airline Observer substack. Quayle is the Senior Vice President of Global Network Planning and Alliances at United Airlines. Nocella is United’s Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer. Quayle and Nocella are a powerful duo and have been bold in trying so many new longhaul routes and then making adjustments as necessary based on route performance.

In the interview, Nocella mentions that the Guam operation has been struggling but that rather than simply move some of the Boeing 737s based in Guam back to the Continental USA, it will move them east instead…to Tokyo Narita.

Long before Quayle took over, United maintained a hub from Tokyo Narita, reminiscent of the pre-787 Dreamliner days in which direct routes between the USA and many Asian cities were much less feasible. Indeed, United and Northwest Airlines (and later Delta Air Lines). From Narita, it operated to destinations throughout East Asia.

That is not coming back. Don’t expect service from Tokyo to Bangkok, Shanghai, Singapore, or Taipei because its JV partner ANA already handles that nicely. Rather, the new service to Cebu (CEB) in the Philippines will be a test case for future 737 travel to secondary markets. United will target markets that do not have nonstop service from the USA, with Nocella explaining, “We have a list of all these high-profile places that don’t have nonstop service to the U.S. that could be of interest. We’re going to try and see if we can make some magic.”

This will not include widebody aircraft, with Nocella adding:

“I don’t think we will be looking at flying widebody jets beyond Tokyo anytime soon. But we have these 737s and a slot portfolio at Narita, and all the feed from the United States on widebody jets, and it created a unique opportunity. This seemed like something we would like to try, and the advanced bookings indicate that it’s going to be very successful.”

Quayle added:

“Our job is solving problems and being creative, and not complaining. We have these assets that are out in the western Pacific, so let’s use it to try something different.”

I love that attitude. The interview also reveals that United uses “gut instinct” to evaluate new market opportunities (for example, for its Cape Town service, which has been wildly successful despite a clear business case for such service before it began).

What About A More Robust Guam Operation?

Since Quayle and Nocella are willing to experiment, I wonder if United would ever try a nonstop from San Francisco (SFO) to Guam, then try out other routes from Guam (some historic), like:

  • Bali (DPS)
  • Bangkok (BKK)
  • Cairns (CNS)
  • Hi Chi Minh City (SGN)
  • Jakarta (CGK)
  • Kuala Lumpur (KUL)

These routes would be more difficult from Narita due to intense competition, mostly by widebody jets.

Part of me thinks United would have already tried this if it saw any commercial case for doing so, but I would also think the cargo + military personnel needs for transport between Guam and the US Mainland could at least justify a 3x weekly service.

CONCLUSION

With Cebu service set to begin later this year and more routes under consideration, United is planning to expand 737 operations from Tokyo Narita. It is not at all clear if this kind of service will be successful, but kudos to United for thinking outside the box and looking at ways to expand the route map. I’m excited to see what comes next.

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16 Comments

  1. --- Reply
    June 15, 2024 at 1:22 pm

    I wonder if we will eventually see a SFO-BKK nonstop. There is currently no nonstop service there (or from US to anywhere in Thailand), and Air Canada has reportedly had success with their seasonal flight.

    Challenge is probably that there is less premium demand than nearby Singapore for instance.

    • Neal Z Reply
      June 15, 2024 at 2:19 pm

      June 15, 2024 at 2:18 pm
      Unfortunately, because Thailand is still a Category 2 country as far as the IASA is concerned, no new service between Thailand and the USA can be added. As someone who goes to Bangkok at least once a year, I’d love to see a nonstop from the USA, but that’s just not in the cards for UA or TG right now

    • Willem Reply
      June 15, 2024 at 2:50 pm

      You and the United sub on Flyertalk for at least the last 10 years LOL. All clamouring for SFO-BKK

  2. Willem Reply
    June 15, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    I definitely do think SFO-GUM is worth a try, with extensions to the SEAsian airports that United doesn’t serve nonstop like SGN, HAN, BKK, perhaps Jakarta & KUL. No way BNE works & Cairns is too small a market

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      June 15, 2024 at 4:07 pm

      It’s a little far, but why do you think BNE could never work? CNS worked for many years…what has changed that makes it a losing route?

  3. Jerry Reply
    June 15, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    Where would they fly that isn’t already served by ANA? Believe me, I’d love to see the NRT hub back at its old glory, but I’m not sure how it would be feasible.

    • Justsaying Reply
      June 15, 2024 at 3:07 pm

      It will be flow by Guam crews not Narita
      To open Narita again sounds like a lawsuit…

  4. Tony Reply
    June 15, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    Continental Airlines never had non-stop revenue flight service between LAX and GUM, I guess partly due to short Guam airport runways (which extended in the 200x). Now, UA’s might be able make SFO-GUM route profitable with B787-8. Also, if UA is willing to deploy B737 max to station GUM, it will be able to connect Northern Australian cities such as BNE, CNE to Tokyo HND, lessen GUM-HND route dependence on Japanese tourists.

  5. James Reply
    June 15, 2024 at 8:01 pm

    What about NRT – HKT?

    Not served by ana

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      June 15, 2024 at 8:01 pm

      I like that. Not sure if there is demand, but would be a fun route to try.

  6. Miamiflyer Reply
    June 16, 2024 at 9:45 am

    Business people would not want to fly widebody SFO-GUM 3x per week and then connect to 737 to go to SE Asia or Australia. There are more comfortable daily options available.
    DPS-GUM seems to be 2 leisure oriented destinations- might not generate enough money

    Making GUM the intermediate stop when going to Asia or Australia won’t work. HNL was that 30+ years ago because aircraft needed to stop. There is a reason why airlines started to fly nonstop once they could.

    SFO-GUM might make sense due to cargo and military contractor movement (but military may have their own flights already

  7. Dom Reply
    June 16, 2024 at 8:57 pm

    “Hi Chi Minh”
    Uncle Ho would be disappointed…

  8. Scott Reply
    June 17, 2024 at 1:13 am

    What about NRT-CNX? I don’t think it’s served non stop.

  9. Tony Reply
    June 17, 2024 at 12:31 pm

    Does United Airlines GUAM based flight crews get paid less than U.S. based counterpart? If not, UA’s plan to connect NRT to secondary or leisure Asian cities might not work financially.

  10. Tony N. Reply
    June 19, 2024 at 1:06 pm

    A 737?

  11. Danny Tan Reply
    June 23, 2024 at 4:10 pm

    How about KUL-GUM -LAX? Need a change from SQ.
    KUL to GUM using B737 Max and GUM to LAX in their wide bodies.
    That’s one way to promote GUM (underserved) as a new break destination.

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