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United CEO on Gulf Carriers: “Those airlines aren’t airlines”

Matthew Klint Posted onMarch 3, 2017 9 Comments

At the US Chamber of Commerce Aviation Summit this week, United CEO Oscar Munoz voiced strong opposition to Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways (ME3).

Those airlines aren’t airlines. They’re international branding vehicles for their countries.

-United CEO Oscar Munoz

Oscar Munoz ME3
UNITED

In an interview with Carol Hallett, former CEO of what is now Airlines for America, Munoz demonstrated that United will continue its firm stance against Gulf carriers. He added–

Facts tend to overcome a lot of emotion and a lot of bias. There are hundreds of thousands of employees who have been through hell and back in the history of the airline industry here in America, and all of a sudden in the last couple of years they’re enjoying the benefits of an industry that’s doing so well. To start edging away from that, and the potential for an un-level playing field and its competitive impact on their roles, you’re going to have a huge uproar from Americans. If there’s any question about where United stands, we are in the camp of supporting our people.

Of course this answer was in response to a question about Emirates’ new service between Newark and Athens that will directly compete with United Airlines. Competition is never welcomed.

> Read More: Will Emirates Squeeze United Out of Athens?

While I can appreciate WHY he would take that position, Munoz also added quips like ME3 flights having only “20 or 30 people” onboard. I’ve never witnessed anything close to this. While load factors may not be at capacity, I’ve flown my fair share on Emirates, Etihad, and Qatar and have never seen lightly filled flights. I book dozens of Award Expert clients each week on Gulf carriers. The flights are not going out empty. That sort of exaggeration further undermines his argument.

So What?

I don’t necessarily disagree with Munoz — indeed, the ME3 are branding vehicles for their countries. But what difference does that make? The issue is competition, not fairness. American partners with Etihad and Qatar. Delta with Saudia. It seems clear to me that the U.S. carriers — United included — are perfectly happy to partner with “the enemy” when it suits them or even seek government subsidies (remember 9/11…). They just don’t want other airlines to use their geographic or organizational advantages against them.

Norwegian: No Problem

Interestingly, Munoz did not express the same level of concern over Norwegian’s aggressive expansion into North America.

Norwegian is being clever … That we can compete with. The [Gulf carriers], we can’t.

But is the issue now competition or protection for USA workers (the old mask U.S. carriers and Airlines for America have traditionally used to justify their opposition to the M3)? If Norwegian is skirting labor rules by incorporating in Ireland and using outsourced FAs, why is that just a matter of competition?

What Will the White House Do?

The unpredictable White House has sent mixed signals on the how it will handle complains over the ME3. While President Trump’s campaign flourished through an aggressive populist stance, at a meeting with airline executives (including Munoz) last month, Trump stated–

I know you’re under pressure from a lot of foreign elements and foreign carriers. I’ve been hearing that a little bit. At the same time, we want to make life good for them also. They come with big investments. In many cases investments are made by their governments, but they are still big investments.

This appears to be a whole different line of analysis than Delta and United make in opposition to the ME3. If the White House is thinking about investment rather than unfair competition, the ME3 should be safe.

> Read More: United CEO Reflects on Trump Meeting (and My Concerns)

An Infrastructure Analogy

Munoz also spoke on the of the need for ATC at the meeting, comparing America’s current system to “having a gravel road when we need a highway.”

You would never drive your Ferrari on a gravel road.

He’s right on that. But is he and other airline leaders willing to cough up their share or at least accept passing it on to customers in the form of higher fares in order to make the upgrades necessary to finally transform the ATC system? I doubt that.

CONCLUSION

While Munoz’s position is perfectly understandable, I question its veracity and frankly see it as nothing more than an emotional ruse to protect United from competition.

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Matthew Klint

Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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9 Comments

  1. Zac George Reply
    March 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    I’m anxiously waiting to see Akbar’s comment back!

    • Matthew Reply
      March 3, 2017 at 11:44 pm

      Let’s hope so!

  2. Christian Reply
    March 3, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    It’s a real pity to see him waste so much of the goodwill that he built on such an obvious ploy.

  3. Jim Reply
    March 3, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    I would take the ME3 any day over the big 3 (AA,UA,Dl). The difference in service and treatment are like comparing a Yugo to a BMW.

  4. Howard Miller Reply
    March 6, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    Ugh! More “hot air” from Oscar, the same person who sent out emails to formerly loyal Continental passengers (after Gordon Bethune took over the airline and saved it from the grips of Frank Lorenzo’s destruction) who abandoned United by the planeload after Jeff Smisek and his crew destroyed the “legacy Continental” when he took over the post-merger United, promising passengers that things would get better now that “Under New Management” banner was hoisted across the doors of the airline’s offices at Willis (nee Sears) Tower, and asking us to come back. Since most of us will find our “bums” in the main cabin seats, the notion that things are getting better with the changes now underway under his direction such as the “basic” (no overhead bins for you) coach fares, the awful 30″ pitch seating in most narrow body aircraft, and his warm embrace of high density ten abreast seating on the airline’s 777’s at 31″ pitch makes clear, he’s full of…”hot air” The last couple of weeks Oscar has seen Oscar and his varied thoughts and reflections about personal life experiences and his vision to make the airline “better.” There can be no denying that Oscar has achieved many great things in the course of his career, and overcome many hardships. His pr people are doing a great job at telling his story, and using that to humanize him, and present him in relatable messages. Unfortunately, the “puff” pieces do three things: 1.) tell his story, personal and professional, which are admirable and “role worthy”; 2.) nearly always gush endlessly about Polaris, a space hogging product for space hoggers who can’t bear the “inconvenience” of 2-2-2 seating, that has to be made up for by packing 306 people aboard the 366 passenger 777-300’s into the back half (yes, the FRONT HALF of the plane seats just 60 space hogs…) in the dreaded, inhumane, teeny-tiny ten-across 31″ pitch seats now being put into service under his direction; 3.) Oh, yeah, completely ignores how crappy the main cabin service is further becoming under his direction. Yup, dear Oscar, who seems to be popping up everywhere, discussing all sorts of things like his family life, health, reflections on life, professional achievements, Polaris…ESPECIALLY Polaris, even the whine-a-rama of the US “Big 3” about the Middle East 3, seems to conveniently pay short shrift to the further abuse already underway, with more to come, for those who sit in the main cabin. It’s gotten to the point now that when I see Oscar, it’s like watching the airline version of Pinnocchio…

  5. Howard Miller Reply
    March 6, 2017 at 6:39 pm

    Oops! I do my best to avoid omissions that result in incomplete thoughts and sentences, but alas, still miss things that somehow fail to make it from things “thought” written, to what actually was written…so, of course, in an earlier comment, “role worthy” should be “role MODEL worthy”… 😉

  6. Tommy Reply
    March 7, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Those North American airlines aren’t airlines, they are couriers.

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