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Home » Airplanes » 737 » Help Me Plan My 737 MAX Trip With My Two-Year-Old…Or Not?
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Help Me Plan My 737 MAX Trip With My Two-Year-Old…Or Not?

Matthew Klint Posted onMarch 13, 2019November 14, 2023 21 Comments

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I want to take my son on a 737 MAX trip this weekend, lest I ever be accused of hypocrisy.

Earlier today, I made (or attempted to make) a rather abstract argument that perhaps we are acting too hastily in grounding the 737 MAX.

Reader Joey suggested:

To prove your point, it may be a good blog article if you take yourself and your entire family on a Boeing 737-8 MAX flight this week and write about it.

> Read More: The Boeing 737 MAX And Iraq War Redux

Since then, Canada has grounded the 737 MAX, leaving the USA to “go it alone” once again. I do not discount the possibility that politics are at play over safety in the United States.

Augustine, my two-year-old, is at an age where he loves airplanes. As we sat watching the Lufthansa safety video (a great tool to teach him English and German) on Monday evening, I was already looking at spending the day at LAX on Saturday. You should have heard him cry when I closed YouTube. He loves watching takeoff and landings.

My wife will be busy on Saturday, which leaves me the whole day with Augustine.

Earlier, Lucky wrote about why he will not fly the 737 MAX (to put his loved ones at ease). I respect that decision.

But here’s my rationale. I trust U.S. commercial airline pilots. These are the men and women who fly the 737 MAX every single day. And these are also the professionals who have no self-interest in flying an unsafe aircraft. If these pilots felt remotely unsafe about operating this aircraft, they would not…and also would not receive any repercussions from their airline or Boeing for doing so. U.S. airlines have also installed additional safety features aboard the 737 MAX.

We don’t know what happened to the Ethiopian Airlines 737 MAX 8. We need to find out. There are two approaches: ground all aircraft out of an abundance of caution or understand that a problem has been identified and pilots know exactly what to look for, offering a fail-safe solution to a well-trained pilot (according to U.S. pilots).

Southwest alone has flown more than 40,000 Southwest MAX flights without incident. I know no one disputes the odds, but I realize that I put my son at greater risk of death by driving to the airport than by taking any flights.

The Itinerary

Both American and Southwest operate 737 MAX 8 variants. United operates the 737 MAX 9. I’d love to work in all three on Saturday, but that doesn’t seem plausible. I’m reaching out to you, dear readers, to see if there is anything I am missing.

I know I can take the Southwest 737 MAX 8 from LAX to Oakland. It does not appear that American operates 737 MAX 8 flights from Los Angeles. I know United serves Houston and Honolulu on the MAX 9.

The Honolulu flight looks especially appealing on Saturday because upgrade space is open and my son and I could slum it in first class to Honolulu. But that’s a six-hour flight and we’d need to return same-day. That’s just a bit much for a two-year-old.

I’d much rather do something like Southwest to Oakland. A one-hour flight is perfect for a two-year-old who loves airplanes. I’d just like to fly the MAX on both Southwest and American or United.

CONCLUSION

Quite honestly, I would love to take my son on a little day trip on Saturday. With all the controversy on the 737 MAX, I’d like to fly on that aircraft.

And let me say this, just so there is no doubt. I am not an aviation safety expert and I do not know what happened. We need to find out and I continue to criticize Boeing for not being more transparent. Still, my own somewhat-informed assessment leads to conclude that we are throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

God forbid we have any more incidents to prove me wrong…

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Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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21 Comments

  1. Df Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:29 pm

    If you want to go fine. But seriously. Leave your son at home.

  2. Stuart Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:30 pm

    Too late. They are now grounding in the US.

  3. Nick S. Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    United flies the MAX 9 IAH-MCO daily

  4. Andre Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:33 pm

    Trump just grounded all 737MAX 8’s & 9’s. Maybe next time..

  5. Matthew Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:35 pm

    So much for that. Trump just grounded them.

    • Stuart Reply
      March 13, 2019 at 5:38 pm

      Hurry, Matthew. You might still be ale to get Copa from Havana to Panama City. 🙂

  6. Steve Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:36 pm

    You trust U.S. pilots but do you trust Boeing? First, MCAS was not doumented sufficiently in the aircraft POH.
    Second, before Lionair, there was no pilot training for MCAS.
    Third, is there a defeat switch to disable erroneous MCAS behavior?

    I don’t have to wait for the FDR analysis, the ADS-B record shows abnormal pitching like a roller coaster ride.

    Because the CFM LEAP-1 engines are larger in diameter than the CFM-56 engines, they are mounted higher on the wing changing the vertical lift component. To prevent stalling, MCAS was intoduced as a counter measure which appears to be more of a problem than a solution.

    • Ryan Reply
      March 16, 2019 at 7:10 pm

      There is in fact a way to disable pitch trimming and all U.S. pilots are trained to do so in the event of a runaway trim. Pilots can also pause the MCAS from trimming down by adding their own trim inputs. Since the pilot crew of the Ethiopian flight was comprised of one experienced pilot with 8,000+ hours and one inexperienced pilot with just over 200 hours, it’s entirely possible due to the lack of experience that the trim was not disabled.

  7. Santastico Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:46 pm

    All 737 Max were grounded in the US

  8. Constantin Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 2:48 pm

    1. Don’t do it, Mathew, please
    2. There’s definitely politics in play, both from US (Boeing) vs EU (Airbus)/China (C919), which doesn’t diminish seriousness of the issue with 737-max
    3. Just read that Trump grounded them, so #1 is irrelevant

  9. Howard Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    Looks like Boeing’s cheque book wasn’t big enough for Trump.

  10. Paolo Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 4:50 pm

    Just hook up a video game version and do it from home…

  11. Steve S Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 5:38 pm

    Serious question – two year old aside – do you just take flights to random places last minute and turn around and come home? Just for the airplane experience? Do you pay cash or miles? Do you work this in as a business expense because you write about it? Honestly wondering…I’d love to catch random flights from DEN to try out different aircraft but I have a hard time justifying $300-400 for “entertainment spend” for a day trip to nowhere.

    • Matthew Reply
      March 13, 2019 at 5:51 pm

      Hi Steve, both of my businesses generate a lot of miles so I tend to use miles for last-minute tickets. There are better uses for them, but few things in life are as fun as taking your child on an airplane. Either way, they do become tax deductions if I write about the trips.

  12. James Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    What a timely article with sensational headline which can never be executed due to federal restrictions which a good samaritan must obey.

    • Matthew Reply
      March 13, 2019 at 6:48 pm

      Thanks for your click!

  13. Mr B Reply
    March 13, 2019 at 11:28 pm

    You named your son “Augustine”? FFS. You already hate him that much?

    • Matthew Reply
      March 14, 2019 at 10:35 am

      It is a strong and beautiful name for a strong and beautiful boy.

      • Paolo Reply
        March 14, 2019 at 9:26 pm

        It’s a great name. He will have to make a pilgrimage ( cultural if not religious) to Sant’ Agostino in Rome, a treasure missed by many, as well as St Augustine in Vienna.

  14. PVG Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 9:44 am

    It is absolutely amazing how we as humans calculate risk. I think you are taking on more risk getting into an automobile and getting on a road to get to the airport than you are boarding a max for flight.

    • Matthew Reply
      March 14, 2019 at 10:33 am

      We certainly are. Humans are funny creatures…

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