A woman dubbed “slut-shaming Karen” was filmed berating a pair of young girls for their choice of attire prior to boarding a Frontier Airlines flight for Atlanta. The girls fought back, showering the woman with profanity in a sad verbal exchange.
Woman Confronts Girls On Frontier Airlines For Skimpy Attire
It isn’t clear which airport this was filmed in, though the departure board indicates a Frontier Airlines flight to Atlanta.
A video first appeared on TikTok, was pulled down, but was reposted to Reddit. It begins in the midst of the encounter, with the older woman lobbing insults at the young women, one with pink hair and the other with blue hair. Both girls were wearing mini-skirts and had exposed midriffs.
One of them responded with mockery as well as a strong defense.
GIRL: “You must be really attracted to my a** to be checking it out!”
WOMAN: “It ain’t your a**, sweetheart, you’re the one without the t**s.”
GIRL: “That’s fine, you don’t have to bash. As being a woman with small t**s, I’m happy with my body. Thank you.”
(applause broke out in the gate area)
The exchange continued and the profanity increased, with the the blue-haired girl stating, “Wow, people are so judgey just because we don’t look like all you basic people do.”
A man sitting next to the older woman, claiming to be a police officer, noted he had arrested prostitutes wearing more clothing than that.
The blue-haired girl responded that she was not prostitute, but she was “proud” to make $40,000 per month because “everyone pays to look at my [breasts] and pay me thousands of dollars for it.”
She also claimed to be the daughter of Atlanta’s Police Chief (I’m sure Rodney Bryant would be surprised…).
Video below…it’s not safe for work!
The older woman been labeled a “slut-shaming Karen” on social media. Karen is a pejorative slang term for “an obnoxious, angry, entitled, and often racist middle-aged white woman who uses her privilege to get her way or police other people’s behaviors.” While we generally avoid the Karen references on Live and Let’s Fly because it brings pain to many lovely Karens, the term has rapidly caught on in popular lexicon and seems to very much fit in this case.
We return to the age-old question of proper wardrobe in public and specifically on airplanes. Frontier does not publish a dress code. The girls’ private parts were covered.
If, as the original poster on TikTok asserted, it was the older woman who started the fight, then I see no defense of her conduct. Bringing attention to such wardrobe choices only emboldens people to dress even more provocatively. More fundamentally, it is not up to you, the traveler, to police the wardrobe of others. If Frontier Airlines had a problem with it, it could have said something to the girls. Mind your own business.
CONCLUSION
The video is about so much more than the volley of insults hurled back and forth. It’s also the crude language and lack of respect. What a sad look into the state of affairs of travel in 2021.
Funny these episodes seem to involve a lot of Allegiant, Spirit and Frontier flights. Wonder why?
I think a better sounding alliteration would be “SLUT-SHAMING SHEILA”
Now we’ve got something.
+1
If this Karen wants to live in a place where the women dress more modestly, I understand that there is a lot of empty inbound capacity to Afghanistan right now.
If all the young ladies on my flights chose to dress similarly, I would not complain.
@RJB,…. your standards are very low.
Sounds like you need a personal trainer and the stick removed from your [redacted by admin]. I can guarantee your 40+ unhappy with your partner and insecure about your body! You want to blame women but yet men are the ones who FEED the sex demand. Maybe go talk to your father/son/husband and [redacted by admin] OFF KAREN.
I generally recommend against wearing skimpy attire on flights for safety reasons. During an emergency evacuation, deep abrasions to the skin and flash burns are possible that could be avoided by wearing less skimpy clothes. That said, I heard of a friend in New York City who was criticized by an anonymous woman in the street for wearing a t-shirt that was tight and slightly low cut. It can be unpleasant to receive such criticism.
It seems that blue haired woman is a sex worker, albeit through webcam. Should there be “equal pay for equal work” and the requirement for men to be paid the same for showing their breasts?
Supply vs demand 😉
@derek
We should definitely aspire to the standard of equal pay for equal work. Your argument is a straw man, however.
In this case, the line of work specifically involves “women’s breasts.” As a result, it doesn’t pass the test of wage discrimination on the basis of sex, as the sex component is integral to the job. It’s the same reason gentleman’s clubs are exempted from having to hire male performers and vice versa for male strip clubs.
The same cannot be said for a position like an office worker performing clerical work, where it’s generally accepted that the sex component is not integral to the job. Discrimination based on sex IS a valid argument in that situation.
Thank you for your sex explanation.
How about the local TV news where I see increasing numbers of women reporters and fewer men. Men are definitely a small minority.
Also dermatologists and gynecologists tend to be women.
@derek
I admit that I should not have conflated the issues of hiring discrimination with wage discrimination before. Equal pay for equal work is not the same as ensuring a diverse pool of workers occupies a particular industry.
That being said, there’s an argument to be made that physical attractiveness is somewhat integral to being a television personality, such as a reporter on a local news station, and some minimum standard does apply to both men and women. Where wage discrimination comes into play is if one particular class of employee (i.e., man versus woman) is consistently paid at a different rate than the other, while performing a similar role.
As for what specialty a physician chooses to pursue, I think we’re starting to get into a different issue. There’re absolutely social factors that influence the professions we choose, but I’m not aware of any discrimination based on sex for any hiring decisions there. I’d argue that there’s almost universally a benefit for more of the opposite sex to enter a field that’s traditionally polarized. Society will benefit if more women become engineers and more men become primary school teachers.
Either way, the whole point is to try and increase opportunities for those who may not have as much. I find the zero sum argument of “They should stop complaining their situation is worse than ours because under these other conditions, our situation is worse than theirs” is counterproductive.
Regarding equal pay for equal work: In professional sports, there’s been a call to pay women the same as men even though there’s different “supply and demand” in question: The men’s sports often draw in more cash and they play for longer sets (hence, more advertising revenue.)
All soon to be moot when transwomen enter women’s sports…
I agree. The real solution is to use whatever levers of power we have to encourage a system where there’s more demand for women’s professional sports, and market forces will take over.
Nevertheless, I think we have a real issue today when supply and demand doesn’t scale linearly. Perhaps professional women’s soccer doesn’t command as much revenue as men’s soccer. However, there’s a certain indignity to having to fundraise to participate in an international competition, especially when our women’s team is the gold standard on the world stage. The same standard doesn’t apply the other way around, and that doesn’t seem right to me. We can do better than that.
I’m just trying to figure how Karen thought that this was going to work out well.
Let them travel nude. That would be fun to watch! Us men could pitch quarters at them.
I miss Hooters Air.
I flew them once. Good time 🙂
She makes 40,000 a month and flies Frontier.
^ haha i was just about to comment that same thing
This is a really stupid argument between ‘Karen’ and ‘the sluts’. Absolutely inane. Karen would have been better off keeping her opinion to herself. As for “the sluts’, when you dress that way, you are begging for attention and will likely get it. Not all of it will be flattering, either.
I agree. People are given the choice to wear whatever clothes they want, paint their hair any color, wear piercings, have tattoos, etc… But every time you stand out in the crowd be prepared for people to notice you so don’t be a snowflake if that happens. She was definitely looking for attention and she probably got way more than she wanted. Deal with it.
For your amusement: Man shamed and deletes photos he took of two apparent instagram girls at the airport:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQpRAua5sdI
I’m reasonably sure the man was within his legal rights to take the photos PARTICULARLY because he was “creepy” about it by being discreet.
Old lady is living a sad life. Envying these young girls living their life without care while her own youth has flown by. Only hope for that Old hag is a peloton.
I wonder how much they were charging for he mile high club?
There is nothing wrong with their attire from the camera angle. Some Americans are awful. Gives a bad name to all Americans. What is wrong with you people? Seriously.
@Bruce, ….” nothing wrong with their attire” ?? They’re basically wearing what looks like underwear in public and then that stupid looking blue hair. I’m also getting the feeling they said or did something to precipitate their loud obnoxious altercation with this woman and maybe she verbalized her annoyance and called them out for the idiots they are. Frankly, it’s best to keep one’s mouth shut and not get involved with such altercations as it will only turn even more sour, has been known to cause injury or even death. Not worth it….. and then probably lose your ride on the plane as well. If they want to look like complete idiots, so be it. Eventually they’re going to grow older, look in the mirror one day and wonder why no guy on earth has ever or would look at them normally. Unfortunately everyone else is supposed to just “embrace” it and “love it”. That I won’t do. I’ll gladly turn a blind eye to it, stay quiet so as not to get my face punched in but it doesn’t mean I have to like it.
Are you kidding me? Do you ever the leave the strip club world in which you live? That trash is made for people like you….enjoy!
Blue hair isn’t wearing a mask. She is violating federal law.
There are wardrobe requirements in airports…masks.
Why is there no outrage at maskless blue hair?
because nobody cares about the stupid mas laws other than karens who want everyone to “mask up”
I just love when classy Americans can come to together in a peaceful and constructive way to discuss the issues of modern life. What a wonderful country populated by so many bright and sophisticated individuals. #Nofuture, #tRump2024!
You should know! They just don’t come any classier than the Trumps….and the many, many, criminals they spend their time with. And the Trump followers just can’t stop showing the world how ignorant and dumb they truly are, and what pathetic lives they choose to live.
How’s COVID-19 working out for you Marv? And remember, don’t wear that mask…..it’s all fake news. Those margins in several states are razor thin……..
Easy there, fella! I think Drumpf belongs in prison for treason, among 100 other crimes. Ever hear of sarcasm?
Only idiots still crying about masks are morons like you Michael. I bet you wear them in your car alone.
She makes $40,000 a month and she’s flying Frontier!!??
Lol. Thought the same thing. Unattractive as hell to be a sex worker, I guess a lid for every pot. Was there an event in ATL?
Alaska is letting them on. It’s none of her business what they’re wearing. Whatever happened to minding your own business? What did she hope to accomplish besides exhibiting that she’s a b***h to everyone within earshot?
And this interaction is symbolic of what America has become.
IF YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WHAT SOMEONE ELSE IS WEARING you are the PROBLEM. Not like she was flashing her breast or private parts! She’s just trying to get where she’s going wearing WHATEVER MAKES HER COMFORTABLE. The face that these older obviously PRIVILEGED WHITE PPL have a problem is on THEM! What a [redacted by admin] sad life to try and start a fight about what one is wearing IN AMERICA IN 2021. I hope this lady gets iDentified and losses everything because she’s a nasty person who can’t keep her EYES OR MOUTH to herself. The moment she’s identified and a petition is brought forth I AM SIGNING. Honeslty, if you have a problem with this it’s your own [redacted by admin] issue!
The fact that the older woman would even start a confrontation with these young women is ridiculous. I’m much older but when I was young, I wore quite of bit of outlandish clothing in the 80’s and 90’s…not not everyone did, but my group of friends did. It may not have been considered “decent” or “appropriate” to some but when you’re young you have gravity and youth on your side and you shouldn’t be ashamed of your body, nor should some old bag make you feel ashamed. I’m proud that Frontier didn’t give them junk about attire. Southwest has been known to give young women crap about wearing things like tank tops or shorts (particularly on their FL flights, hello it’s hot as hell down there) and have made women cover up. They once gave my 13 year old step daughter a hard time for wearing shorts/tank on her way back home from AL to Tampa, I knew what she was wearing when we put her on the plane, it wasn’t indecent and frankly just they are given too much leeway when they’re allowed to do this. That woman should have been kicked off the flight if she instigated the fight by continuing to insult them. Let them be young, leave them alone.
Their clothing as well as their verbal repertoire are representative of their being sluts in need of some parental guidance. But it is obvious that they lack that, so there they are. The older lady may have been provoked by them earlier. We don’t see what happened before the exchange.
People just need to keep their mouths shut
They’re all misbehaving pundits. The kids cannot afford to dress appropriately and thus should not be able to afford flying. It’s obvious “Karen” should have not flown Frontier and drag her dress code down to their level.
The bottom line, we get what we paid for.