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Home » Lufthansa » Lufthansa Adds Berlin to New York JFK Flight
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Lufthansa Adds Berlin to New York JFK Flight

Matthew Klint Posted onSeptember 27, 2017November 14, 2023 7 Comments

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With all Air Berlin longhaul operations cancelled out of Berlin, a big void has been left. Lufthansa is starting to fill it in with new service to New York (JFK) starting November 08, 2017.

Per Svenblogt, the new service will operate Monday-Thursday and Saturday on the following schedule:

  • LH406 Berlin to New York (JFK) dep 5:35pm, arr 9:35pm (10hr)
  • LH407 New York (JFK) to Berlin dep 11:20pm, arr 12:15pm+1 (6hr,55min)

Something doesn’t seem right about the schedule above–the flight is generally about 8 hours going and 9 hours coming back. That’s some serious padding on the way to New York (and lack of padding on the way back). At first I thought the schedule assumed the earlier switchover to standard time in Central Europe than in the United States, but that cannot be it. Europe changes on October 29th while the USA changes on November 5th–both before the 08 Nov start date.

Anyway, on the one hand it is interesting that Lufthansa is not serving Newark, hub of Star Alliance and JV partner United. That would surely allow for better feeds to/from U.S. domestic and Canadian transborder flights. Furthermore, the time complements nicely with the United-operated service to Berlin, which leaves earlier in the evening and returns midday rather than in the late afternoon.

Then again, JFK remains an important station for Lufthansa with a great club. It could also be a function of Lufthansa taking over an Air Berlin route.

CONCLUSION

There has been no official announcement yet, but I expect it shortly. Let’s see how many former Air Berlin routes Lufthansa takes over. As Sven noted, it interesting that this will be a Lufthansa-operated route, not one operated by low-cost subsidiary Eurowings. We don’t know yet what aircraft will be used, though it probably won’t be the A380 above.

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Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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7 Comments

  1. A mirrer Reply
    September 27, 2017 at 7:33 am

    The jfk-txl is blocked at 7:55 not 6:55

    • Matthew Reply
      September 27, 2017 at 1:32 pm

      23:20 to 12:15 is 6hr,55min.

      Imagine adding six hours to the departure time to eliminate the time change. That makes it 05:20 to 12:15. That’s 6hr,55min.

  2. Zach Reply
    September 27, 2017 at 12:29 pm

    Also doesn’t seem intuitive to me to operate on Saturday but not Sunday. I guess the Saturday flights may make more sense for leisure travel, but seems business travel (which I expect is higher yield) would be heavier on Sunday.

  3. UA-NYC Reply
    September 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    Probably because there is enough O&D to run to JFK, the (generally) preferred airport, even w/o any domestic connection ability

    Plus, EWR is a dump of course

    • augias Reply
      October 13, 2017 at 8:54 am

      A lot of new yorkers feel differently. Newark is much more easily reachable by train, and if you live in Manhattan it is much closer than JFK (Newark is perhaps 25-45 minutes by car from where I live on the upper west side, as opposed to 1-2 hours for JFK) For this reason, I do not fly out of JFK, only Newark and LGA.
      As far as airport facilities go, some terminals at JFK are great while others are terrible. Newark is consistently mediocre (but not terrible) in all its terminals.

  4. YYZFlyer Reply
    September 27, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    I hope that LH picks up some more of Air Berlin’s Dusseldorf routes as well, I have heard they are going to restart DUS-MIA. LH used to have a small long haul base in DUS flying to MIA, EWR, ORD and YYZ, now they only do the EWR-DUS route and soon DUS-MIA. I could see flights from DUS to the Caribbean being a good fit for Eurowings and routes like DUS-ORD, SFO, LAX and YYZ being a good fit for mainline Lufthansa, if they choose to start DUS-ORD/YYZ, which Air Berlin previously didn’t operate.

  5. Stuart Reply
    September 28, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    I kind of wonder what this is going to mean for the RSW-DUS route considering that was one of the most profitable routes for AB?

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