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What Trump’s Victory Means For Airlines

Matthew Klint Posted onNovember 6, 2024November 6, 2024 130 Comments

a man speaking into a microphone

Donald Trump’s victory last night took many by surprise. The return of President Trump to the White House will directly impact airline regulations and mergers. Here are my predictions.

In This Post:

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  • What Donald Trump’s Victory Means For Airlines And Passengers
    • Northeast Alliance Between American Airlines + JetBlue Will Return
    • Spirit + Frontier Will Merge
    • JetBlue Will Try For Another Merger
    • Consumer Protections Will Not Be Enforced
    • Loyalty Inquiry Will Be Dropped
    • CONCLUSION

What Donald Trump’s Victory Means For Airlines And Passengers

The return of the Trump Administration will likely usher in a more hands-off approach to regulation that will impact both passenger protections and mergers.

Northeast Alliance Between American Airlines + JetBlue Will Return

American Airlines is already exploring a fresh alliance with JetBlue and I expect we will see a full return of the Northeast Alliance with very little pushback from US regulators. After failing to find a merger partner, JetBlue will again work closely with American Airlines in a bid to complement some of its routes from Boston (BOS) and New York (both LGA and JFK) as well as in Florida. We should also see a return to reciprocal frequent flyer benefits.

Spirit + Frontier Will Merge

I’m not sure a Harris Administration would have blocked this, but a Trump Justice Department will not oppose a merger between Spirit and Frontier, the nation’s two leading discount carriers. Both carriers have struggled in the post-pandemic world as network carriers have become far more adept at pricing their own tickets to better compete. Consumers have also wised up to the business model and are spending less money on ancillary items like baggage, a critical component of the business model.

JetBlue Will Try For Another Merger

Even as the Northeast Alliance between JetBlue and American Airlines will return in the interim, I would not be surprised to see JetBlue and Alaska Airlines attempt to merge. That’s another post for another day, but if JetBlue and Alaska did try to merger, I am not certain it would face any pushback from the Trump Administration.

Consumer Protections Will Not Be Enforced

Under Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg, the US has introduced new safeguards for travelers, including automatic refunds during delays or cancellations and stringent guidelines or airlines to offer meal and hotel vouchers during delays. While I don’t expect those rules will vanish on Day One, I predict they will be weakened through non-enforcement and ultimately abandoned altogether as too “burdensome” for carriers serving US soil.

Loyalty Inquiry Will Be Dropped

Buttigieg is also looking into the transparency of frequent flyer programs and whether airlines offer what amounts to a bait and switch when it comes to promising free flights or other perks in exchange for loyalty and credit card spending, then failing to deliver. I expect that inquiry is now over. I also expect Dick Durban’s (D – IL) Credit Card Competition Act of 2023 is dead.

CONCLUSION

Trump’s victory will lead to new leadership at the Department of Justice and Department of Transportation that is more likely to abandon Biden-era restrictions on cooperation and compensation. The result for US consumers may be mixed: fewer consumer protections but an industry that can better align to market headwinds through cooperation.


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Matthew Klint

Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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130 Comments

  1. Alert Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 7:43 am

    Camel-a is in a hideout with her illegal alien Venezuelan gang friends drinking cheap-o wine .

    They are reassuring her that she is not the most moron amongst their group . She is such a moron that she believes them ,

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 7:49 am

      Can we please be charitable today? Even Trump was in his victory speech. No need to cut down Harris, especially when it seems clear many voted against her simply because she was a woman.

      • Alert Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 8:00 am

        @Matthew … This was satire . If I had been serious , I would have described her correctly as preposterous or ludicrous .

        I respectfully disagree with your statement that “many voted against her because she was a woman” . That is merely her lame excuse , because in fact many many many women voted against her because of her mad policies .

        • DFW_Scott Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 3:13 pm

          +1

        • dee Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 6:08 pm

          So true.. I would have loved to see a woman prez but Comma La was not equipped to handle the role…People did not vote for her because of her extreme ideologies and policies… Not in line with America..Esp her Proposed new TAXES. In her concession speech she is till talking about Fighting… not good for America more division…

        • Alert Reply
          November 7, 2024 at 6:31 pm

          @Matthew … The famous infallible wise Congresswoman AOC today claimed that Harris lost because of “sexism” , that people did not want a female President . Nonsense . Actually , Harris lost because she was unsuitable to the voters .

          Republicans’ greatest hope is that Harris will stick around and will be “appointed” to be the nominee again .

      • Santastico Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 8:41 am

        I am sorry Matthew, but people voted against her because she is incompetent and was absolutely unqualified to be president. She ran a campaign with zero policies but a tiring approach of criticizing her opponent instead of showing anything good about her. Also, there is no gender or racial discrimination on the results. It was a landslide including the popular vote. This time the Democrats have no excuse other than their incompetence. They tried to silence millions of Americans for 4 years and that people spoke yesterday.

        • JH Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 9:02 am

          #nailedit

        • Aaron Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 10:52 am

          Yeah, her being a woman of color wasn’t a turn off for some people. At all.

          • Santastico
            November 6, 2024 at 12:11 pm

            BTW, although she has the genetics that can call her black, her skin is whiter than mine and I am not considered black but Hispanic. Oprah or Michelle Obama would be a better choice if this was about electing a black woman with black skin. She was a DEI option that did not deliver.

          • Santastico
            November 6, 2024 at 12:29 pm

            And since you like to bring her color into the discussion, see how people of color voted for her comparing to Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden. People of color did not support her the same way they supported other Democrat candidates that were white. Does that tell you something? It was never about her color or being a woman, it was because she was incompetent and chose to attack her opponent and his supporters rather than tell people why they should vote for her. And don’t forget she chose a clown to be her VP. That counts as well.

            Voters of color, college degree
            2016 – Clinton: +50%
            2020 – Biden: +43%
            2024 – Harris: +35%

            Voters of color, no degree
            2016 – Clinton: +56%
            2020 – Biden: +46%
            2024 – Harris: +32%

          • Batchcaloupe
            November 6, 2024 at 3:23 pm

            Yeah it was but mostly to democrats especially Hispanics and black men….

        • chasgoose Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 4:18 pm

          What policies did Trump run with pray tell?

        • Travel girl Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 5:56 pm

          @Santastico Touché. I don’t know anyone who chose Trump over her because she’s a woman. She lost because she’s incompetent.

        • Vanity Magoo Reply
          November 7, 2024 at 8:48 am

          Yayyy for brainwashed, self-hating Latino voters

      • JH Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 8:48 am

        That’s an incredibly ignorant statement, Matthew.

        There are plenty of women I’d vote for before Harris.

        I would vote for someone like Tulsi Gabbard before I’d vote for many male Democrats.

        Harris was an awful candidate in 2019 when she ran for the WH and was still that same terrible candidate in this election cycle.

        She also ran a terrible campaign when she decided to call her opponents supporters Nazis.

        • Alert Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 8:51 am

          @JH … +1 . Yes , I am a “deplorable” and “garbage” , according to Camel-a .

          • O'Hare Is My Second Home
            November 6, 2024 at 1:28 pm

            But, Alert, you are deplorable garbage. Embrace it and join your fellow MAGA Morons.

            Down with Mango Mussolini. Down with Hillbilly Bear. To the lampposts.

        • Santastico Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 8:52 am

          @JH: +1. I was not expecting a sore loser comment like this one from Matthew. This is a typical example of how Democrats behave. They blame their incompetence on others. Time to admit hey are far from perfect.

          • Alert
            November 6, 2024 at 9:00 am

            @Santastico … Camel-a reading the New York Times (about how the race is ‘neck-and-neck’) , is akin to the Mad Hatter reading Mad Magazine .

          • Aaron
            November 6, 2024 at 11:15 am

            Oh please, nothing screams “sore loser” like still claiming your loss was due to an election being stolen.

          • GUWonder
            November 7, 2024 at 2:40 am

            Do you still not realize he was a Republican?

        • chasgoose Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 6:46 pm

          If the swastika fits…

      • Kevin Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 9:51 am

        Your comment that many Americans voted against her because she is a woman is total BS.

        Many Americans would vote for a smart capable woman for president, including myself. The problem is that anyone who has been paying attention voted against her because she was an insufferable moron. In the few appearances that she was forced to make, she had the opportunity to differentiate herself from her current administration, She stated that she couldn’t think of anything she would do differently (as Americans were growing more anxious about the economy), she couldn’t string two coherent sentences together and had the personality similar to Hillary Clinton.

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 10:16 am

          That may be…I’m not making final pronouncements, just curious about the gender gap in the vote.

          • Dave W.
            November 6, 2024 at 1:06 pm

            The problem we have is, in recent elections, men have gone more red and woman have gone more blue even with candidates of the same sex. So, how do we tell? Ask people who have an incentive to lie?
            There are Trump voters who would have voted for a “male Harris.” There are Harris voters who wouldn’t have voted for a “male Harris.” Both are sexists.
            People might admit they voted for (because she was) a woman, since it is considered OK by many, most (unless trolling) won’t admit voting against (because she was) a woman.

        • Santastico Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 10:28 am

          @Kevin: +1. It is so interesting to see comments like Matthew’s which are based on emotion vs facts. Funny that I voted for several woman yesterday including Senate, House, School District, Judge, etc… I mentioned here before, I never vote on a person but on the person’s policies and beliefs. Harris never showed me any polices and her beliefs were very different than mine.

          • Matthew Klint
            November 6, 2024 at 4:06 pm

            No Santastico, don’t reduce my comment to that.

            Why was it that Black and Latino men broke for Trump this time? You think it had nothing at all to do with her being a woman?

            I think more exit polling will help answer the question. It’s just a hunch….and I’m not condemning anyone…obviously there was a lot of anger that Harris failed to adequately address.

      • CHRIS Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 10:02 am

        Matthew,
        Don’t forget “Black” as in, “They voted against the hyena because she’s Black”….might as well go there too since that’s where you’re headed.

        Folks, I urge you to delay your trips for a few days to leave ample airline availability to accommodate those who will be making good on their threat to leave the country.

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 10:15 am

          I don’t think that was it – because you saw black and brown men breaking for Trump, particularly under 30.

          I’m only reflecting on the data emerging, not making condemnations (yet).

          • Alert
            November 6, 2024 at 10:48 am

            @Matthew … Respectfully , I’ll pass on the “data” . Every time the Media concocted a fake story about The Donald , and every time the New York courts prosecuted Bills of Attainder against The Donald , and every time the “celebrities” or “influencers” called The Donald vile names , the ordinary Yanks in Kentucky and Texas felt compelled to spit .

          • Matthew Klint
            November 6, 2024 at 4:07 pm

            I think both your point and my point can be true…

        • Aaron Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 11:17 am

          The way conservatives were leaving the country in 2020?

      • David Arnett Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 8:43 pm

        This is the stupidest thing you have ever said.

        People didn’t vote for her because she is a hateful liberal who despises the average White person, average Christian, and average Conservative, and she pushes bad establishment policies.

        If she were a pro freedom conservative or anti establishment moderate like Tulsi Gabbard, all the people who voted for Trump would have no problem voting for her.

        You should write an apology to the readers for making this comment. If you really think she lost because she is a woman and not because of her policies and hateful stances on normal people, it calls into question your views on aviation, hotels, and miles and points. Maybe it’s best you call it a day and close the blog down.

      • CericRushmore Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 4:38 am

        https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/election-2024-voters-demographics-votecast-survey-5a21c604

        I would be surprised if people interpret the data that people voted for Trump instead of Harris because she is female. It seems all groups except upper income households moved towards trump. Young woman up to 29 also moved towards trump.

      • David Greenberg Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 9:51 pm

        It began at the beginning when she was the mistress of Oakland political boss Willie Brown. She was his “protegee.” Even he told her not to run for president because she would be tattooed with Uncle Joe’s policies . Her real job as VP was to sit in on Senate sessions and push the button Yes when there were ties. Both Joe and she were vessels for Obama’s 3rd term. That’s all. No thinking was necessary. Her husband had even been a partner in the US law firm that represented George Soros. No person or, more specifically woman, could have lived a more charmed political life, but she just didn’t have the mettle to make the most of it. She’ll probably come home to CA and run for governor but she will face a growing Republican party here and isn’t a shoo in.

      • Dem0nRats Revil Reply
        January 22, 2025 at 10:39 pm

        lol… because she is a woman? Did you really say that. You are not a serious person. Bye

    • derek Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 9:09 am

      Harris won. The election was rigged. If she is in the White House, groceries will get cheaper, rich would pay their fair share, everyone would have an EV, DYKWIA frequent flyer elites would be punished, and the Supreme Court would be enlarged.

      • Santastico Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 9:24 am

        @derek: I hear Cuba is offering asylum to American Liberals that are melting down.

        • Alert Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 9:54 am

          @Santastico … The tearful “celebrities” and “influencers” will move to Zimbabwe or Turkey .

          • CHRIS
            November 6, 2024 at 10:04 am

            ….or the open and tolerant Gaza Strip. They tell me it’s nice there this time of year.

      • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 1:35 pm

        True. There was fraud by the Repugnant MAGA crowd before the election in Georgia by stacking the local election boards and in North Carolina by spreading lies about FEMA. There was fraud in Wisconsin as well; the great Tammy Baldwin should not be caught in a tight race with Hovde the rich neo-fascist. But we’re not gonna march on the Capitol because, unlike MAGA Morons, we are civilized human beings, not trailer trash with missing teeth and missing high school diplomas.

        • JH Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 2:10 pm

          You want to talk about fraud?

          How did Kamala get 15 MILLION less votes than Joe Biden did in 2020?

          You mean to tell me that 15 MILLION Democrats stayed home yesterday?

          15 MILLION?

          • GUWonder
            November 8, 2024 at 9:37 am

            A lot of people weren’t interested in voting for the Democrats because they weren’t enthused by a continuation of the Biden Admin under the Harris name. Many of them probably didn’t show up to vote at all, which is perhaps why we see Trump having overperformed down ticket Republicans in swing states and elsewhere too while third party candidates didn’t really amount to being relevant as much as in 2000 and 2016.

            Trump won this 2024 election just as well as Trump lost the 2020 election. Now America will pay a long-term price for too many Americans supporting Trump even after they know how scummy he is — or maybe because he is scummy and there is a preference for authentic scum over unauthentic wishy-washy attempts to be all things to all people. Ironically, Bernie Sanders has it right: the Democrats fail by failing to focus on delivering for the so-called working class.

        • Batchcaloupe Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 3:28 pm

          You all proved how peaceful you were during the BLM riots!!

          • O'Hare Is My Second Home
            November 6, 2024 at 3:41 pm

            I’m an old white guy and a liberal/moderate Democrat. I didn’t take part in BLM riots. But I will take part in a civil war because then it’ll be legal to kill rednecks and Repugnants.

        • Jan Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 4:14 pm

          Your coping, seething and malding is glorious

          • O'Hare Is My Second Home
            November 6, 2024 at 5:46 pm

            I’m glorious, sweetheart, and no Repugnant can take that away from me.

        • Andys Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 8:14 pm

          Good, glad they did that. Hope we see this now in all parts of the government.
          Can’t wait till I can report fgts like yourself to the trump version of the stasi.
          You will be erased.

          • O'Hare Is My Second Home
            November 8, 2024 at 4:21 pm

            This fgt Democrat is a gun owner, and the Army taught me how to use one. Come me after me, big boy. I dare you.

  2. Maryland Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 8:10 am

    First congratulations to Trump’s supporters. Said with sincerity and grace.

    Airlines will love the new administration; their customers not so much. Meltdowns will happen and I hope the traveling public will not be ignored.

    • DanTheMan Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 8:50 am

      Unlikely you will receive the same in return.

    • Alert Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 9:04 am

      Thank you , Maryland . You are good .

  3. Runway30 Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 8:13 am

    I agree Frontier will kills off Spirit Airlines.
    JetBlue will be bought by someone else.
    Southwest has new influencers leading its BOD.
    With a Pro Merger DOJ in 2025 this will open up a merger opportunity for Southwest to diversify its operations as they user into a new EML model.
    JetBlue brings the biggest market share opportunities that they currently Lack. WN don’t really overlap all that much and by buying JetBlue it would propel them into a better position in key markets like BOSTON, JFK(NYC),South Florida and The Caribbean. WN domestic dominance would funnel a huge increase of passenger traffic into JetBlues Europe network to make it profitable.
    If WN doesn’t make a play for JetBlue I see Breeze becoming a part of JetBlue and David Needleman returning to JetBlue as CEO while Marty remains as president with Azul becoming a South American sister company.

    • Tony Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 1:01 pm

      Jetblue would be more valuable if the asset be sold off in pieces.

  4. Jesse Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 9:02 am

    Women of childbearing age will need a note from an OBGYN and permission from their fathers, brothers or husbands to get on a plane at all. On-site TSA pregnancy tests will add a lot of hassle to travel.

    And then there are safety measures, aka commie government overreach. So much for all that.

    • CHRIS Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 10:06 am

      Which country will you be fleeing to?
      Might I suggest Iran?

      • Aaron Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 10:51 am

        No need to flee, the US will be the Christian version of Iran in a few years.

        • Santastico Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 11:46 am

          @Aaron: what time is your therapy session today? I am concerned you will melt down before the end of the day.

      • Jesse Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 10:39 pm

        CHRIS
        I am a naturalized citizen of Japan, and I have no further use for my US passport.
        Say what you will about Iran, but they did not choose their government for themselves.

    • Jan Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 11:09 am

      Realistically, none of these will happen. This is why America rejected Reddit leftist ideas like yours.

      • Jesse Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 10:40 pm

        Jan, it is already happening in Texas.

    • Dave W. Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 1:14 pm

      No one who knows me thinks I’m a Trump fan. But, it will give me great pleasure on 7 Nov 2028 to ask “where are the gulags full of the press” and “I thought if Trump won we’d wouldn’t be voting anymore.” I, by the way, would have been equally critical of Trump’s predictions on Harris’s actions if she won.

    • Andys Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 8:15 pm

      Let’s hope.
      Women have proven they are inferior to men.

  5. ReyL Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 9:27 am

    Elections are always historic events. Lots of speculation in the regulatory and M&A front. Some will bear fruit and others won’t. Be thankful and take advantage of the opportunities.

  6. Santastico Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 10:37 am

    @Matthew: Take a look at his. “Kamala Harris did not out perform Joe Biden in a single county in the entire country.” Absolutely shocking!

    https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1854056504044744735

    • Alert Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 10:43 am

      @Santastico … +1 . Foreseeable . I cannot imagine any regular Yank , in Kentucky or Texas , giving Camel-a the time of day .

      • Santastico Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 10:48 am

        @Alert: We are not talking Kentucky or Texas. We are talking every single county in the entire country. That shows how bad she was.

        • Alert Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 10:53 am

          @Santastico … Exactly so . I only used Kentucky and Texas , in grateful tribute , because I owe my life to those wonderful people’s sons .

  7. InLA Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 10:41 am

    DOT will still accept consumer complaints. But, when sending in your complaint, you should expect to include a meaningful “tip” which the complaint-processor won’t have to report because it will be non-taxable.

  8. Dave Edwards Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 10:42 am

    Honestly I hope some of Mayor Pete’s policies and ideas stick around. I know that’s strange coming from me but the guy wasn’t as far left as some made him out to be. I also find it interesting he was nowhere to be found on the campaign trail or even a consideration for VP. He would have been a far better choice than Walz. Possibly a future story yet to be told on why.

    • Maryland Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 11:28 am

      Exactly.

    • Scooter Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 11:30 am

      There are a lot of people who would have made better choices (Josh Shapiro, Gretchen Whitmer come to mind), but I hope whoever Trump puts in does follow some of the same policies as Mayor Pete. Think he was one of the better parts of the Biden admin, and not just because he made Tim Dunn look foolish about Crowdstrike.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 12:41 pm

      He would have beat Trump IMO, but that’s another discussion. He was a very able surrogate for KH, but this was not his time.

      • Jan Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 1:45 pm

        America not ready for a gay man for president

        • Matthew Klint Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 2:06 pm

          They apparently not ready for many things.

          • DavidM
            November 6, 2024 at 3:42 pm

            Please… First, it was about voters not ready for a woman President. Now, it is “not ready for a Black-Indian woman.” So you are basically calling Trump voters (or anyone voting for someone with an R beside their name) racists without using the word. What’s next – calling them “garbage” and “deplorables”? Maybe those voters were more influenced by effects and worries regarding “the economy” and “immigration”? But I guess today is more about “lashing out” for you…

          • Matthew Klint
            November 6, 2024 at 4:01 pm

            America gets the leaders they deserve.

            I recognized the anger over inflation and the border and offered no editorial endorsing one candidate or the other. I’ve largely stayed quiet on these two and will be attending the inaugural for Trump in January 2025, as I did in January 2017.

            But try to stay calm and realize I’m not calling anyone racist or anti-woman, though it seems to me (just one observer) that it was more than just a disagreement over her policies…

            Now, I join other Americans of good conscience in praying that God would bless this nation and its leadership and that the US would be a force for good in this world.

        • Andys Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 8:16 pm

          And it never should be.
          LGBT people are defective.

          • GUWonder
            November 7, 2024 at 7:14 am

            All people are defective, including each and everyone who has ever looked in a mirror or not. Even your Lord Trump is no example of perfection and infallibility — and my bet is that ye Lord will have a major health problem that leads to a President Vance before January 20, 2029.

      • GUWonder Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 9:22 am

        Black and Latino men tend to be more scornful of LGBTQ men than they are of women. And less-educated and poorer-income males tend to be more uncomfortable with women who make more money than them and/or have a higher socio-economic status than them.

  9. Paper Boarding Pass Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 10:42 am

    Sticking to the airlines:
    – Frontier & Spirit will merge. However, one or both will need to declare bankruptcy. However, Frontier will be the survivor since its holding company (Indigo Partners) has the deeper pockets and could end up as the debtor-in-possession during the Chapter 11 proceedings. As a road map, this dual bankruptcy approach was used by Northwest & Delta.
    – The North East Alliance will be approved by a Trump DOJ. Both gain from needed revenue, coverage & efficiency. Just to keep all happy, they will forfeit a slot or two.
    – The recent slot allocation at DCA could be modified with additional slots or a scramble of the slots that were issued a few months ago
    – As I predicted in a prior posting, AS/HA/B6 would emerge as the 5th nationwide legacy carrier, WN in the middle, with the merged Frontier handling the ULCC strata.
    – Breeze is a wild card. Its lack of consistency and its unusual markets are a liability. However, its fresh A220 fleet is of value. My bet is DL picks them up as a complement to its existing A220 fleet as it is ready to drop its B717 airframes. However, Breeze would be a great opportunity for AA & UA to address smaller markets or improve frequency in key markets via shuttle service.
    – Trump will allow the mergers as his carrot and use the refund policy as his stick to keep the airlines under control and to look good with the public which supported his re-election.

  10. cairns Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 12:30 pm

    Maryland is the epitome of grace and style.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 12:39 pm

      Yes she is!

  11. Adam L Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 12:56 pm

    I’m disappointed in the results, mostly because I believe character matters, but the American people made their choice. I just hope the new administration truly does focus on improving the lives of everyday Americans instead of pursuing perceived petty vendettas.

    • Dave W. Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 1:19 pm

      I think the trick is to point out to Trump, he can’t run again (not sure he knows that), and convince him to spend this (technically) lame-duck presidency to build his legacy. Get him started early planning his presidential library.

      • Dave W. Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 1:21 pm

        He can start getting together his presidential papers, doodles, and the artwork they stick on the refrigerator.

      • GUWonder Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 7:19 am

        He wants a Putin-like legacy while alive. And pretty much the same kind of post-death legacy as with Putin.

        • Dave W. Reply
          November 7, 2024 at 12:26 pm

          But, I suspect I can distract him by jangleing my keys or suggesting we go to McDonalds.

          • GUWonder
            November 8, 2024 at 10:34 am

            Besides golf and TV, keep in mind the big distraction of him fighting his own personal Vietnam War with more STD land mines in the picture for him.

  12. UA_LOL Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    Someone should check on our friends over at Omni flyertalk. They’re going to stroke out they’re seething so bad.

  13. O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 1:39 pm

    I want Mango Mussolini, Hillbilly Bear, B6, and MX to die on the same day. The next day, I can die happy.

  14. David Miller Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 2:14 pm

    Typical mouthing off from idiotic liberals – President elect Trump has not even taken office yet and all of you morons “know” exactly what will happen. All you stupid liberals do is bitch and moan. You are one pathetic bunch…

    • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 3:44 pm

      Four years ago, we didn’t bitch and moan like some people who shall be unnamed and unbathed did to the point of invading the Capitol with weapons. You lie down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

    • GUWonder Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 7:35 am

      Given the correlation between level of formal education and voting patterns among our compatriots, not sure what makes you think it’s the anti-Trump types who are more “idiotic”. Seems idiotic to call higher-achieving students more idiotic than those who performed worse in school. And openly LGTBQ students seem to have a tendency to do better in school than the average student from otherwise the same socio-economic and demographic background. Are such LGBTQ people idiots too, or are the idiots really those who fear being outperformed by those whom they view as “different”/“the other” and show their insecurity by hunkering down with a toxic hegemonic masculinity that speaks to weakness? Rhetorical question, just in case an insecure “idiot” doesn’t know better than to recognize a rhetorical question for what it is.

  15. chasgoose Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    Trying to stay above the political fray on this disappointing day, but as a lead M&A counsel for a Fortune 100 company, I’m not so sure antitrust enforcement will drop as dramatically as you think. Vance is on the record praising Lina Khan and calling for more robust antitrust enforcement . Trump’s only interests in antitrust last time seemed to be punishing companies that he didn’t like (such as with the ATT/Time Warner merger), so if Vance has more of a voice there it might not be as easy for these mergers to go through as you think (and who knows one of the airlines could rub Trump the wrong way and incur his wrath).

    I definitely think we won’t see the FTC/DOJ be as robust as they were on antitrust under Biden, but I don’t think we are going back to basically no antitrust enforcement at all like we saw under Reagan, Clinton, both Bushes, and even the early Obama years.

    • HS Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 5:10 pm

      +1 Re: antitrust, a lot depends on how much Vance has Trump’s ear.

      • chasgoose Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 6:45 pm

        /how little Trump cares to actually get involved into the details. He wasn’t exactly “hands on” the first go round.

        • GUWonder Reply
          November 7, 2024 at 12:33 pm

          Trump was incompetently hands-on but was like a lousy supervisor who helicopters in, drops a few bombs and then gets distracted to go after another target like a bad bully with a bad case of ADHD.

          And about Vance, he’s a forked-tongue, two-faced self-promoter who is a corporate apologist and will do the bidding of the so-called financial masters of the universe from which he and his wife have made their money.

  16. John Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 4:50 pm

    Stoking the fire, I see, with this blog. I know controversy increases your readership.
    I’ve had enough of taking the bait.

    The US is in serious, serious trouble as of today. Guess what? I don’t even care anymore. I’ll happily live blissfully in my privileged blue bubble in California as a white male. I’ll be fine.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 5:06 pm

      My story went out of the way not to stoke any political fire. But the first comment was some stupid “satire” about Harris being a moron and I left a response to that. That’s not “bait.”

      • Alert Reply
        November 6, 2024 at 6:24 pm

        @Matthew … I agree with you that my satire about Camel-a being a moron was “stupid” .

        What led me to the conclusion ( moron ) , was because when they started counting the ballots , she asked Why she needs a tabulation of votes ? She said that she obtained the nomination without votes , and she was appointed to the original Brandon ticket without votes , so why then does she need votes to become President ?

        However , I am so “stupid” that I equated her confusion about needing votes with being a moron .

        Likewise the Dems confusion about What is a woman ? Dems have such a poor concept of woman that they allow guys into the women’s locker rooms , and allow guys to play on women’s teams . Dems even recommend hormone shots and sex surgeries on women . I also mistakenly thought that wort of thinking was moronic .==

        • Antwerp Reply
          November 6, 2024 at 11:25 pm

          You obsess over the entire blog comments section about everything and anything. Incessantly troll people. Insult at random. Act like a 12 year old. After, only when called out a bit by Matthew, do you then backtrack and try to act sensitive and apologize. Enough. Just stop. I am not sure what you are going through in your personal life but the rest of us do not deserve this. If you are suffering, please, get help, there are channels for this that you deserve and should seek.

          We can have healthy conversations without all of the crap you wield daily. In fact, they will be better conversations. I am just exhausted to see the first comment of every post from you with some sort of absurdity as to whatever it is you think you contribute. Which is little other than being the first comment every single day.

          • Alert
            November 7, 2024 at 6:32 am

            Thanks @Antwerp . Time to lighten-up , buddy .

    • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
      November 6, 2024 at 5:57 pm

      Oh, John, I definitely can empathize. I’m a white male in Illinois, the first state (and nearly the only one for a decade) to eliminate sodomy laws, as well as a land of legal weed. I live in a cushioned blue security blanket and love it. The problem is that I have to fly out of there to work. This week is good; I’m in blue, blue LA. Next week, though, I’m in central Indiana, and Indiana was the place where the modern KKK was born.

    • GUWonder Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 7:08 am

      The public get the politicians which the public deserves in a country like ours. That also means the public will have to pay the price for the politicians the country elects — and a price will be paid, and it’s just a matter of when and who in our country pays the price for this coming Putinization of America.

  17. Andys Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 8:12 pm

    Hope Ukraine is finally given back to its rightful owner. Russia.
    Ukraine isn’t a real country and has existed for earlier than the 90s.

    • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 2:17 pm

      You’ve said this before and we cut you down then. This time you didn’t repeat the lie that Israel is no older than 1947, so that’s progress. Note again: Ukraine has existed far longer than Russia. Ukraine as a recognized nation, Kievan Rus, has existed since the 900s. Russia in any of its Muscovy forms has only existed since the 1400s. Stop lying and go lick Putin’s butt some more.

      • Matthew Klint Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 7:09 pm

        Andys is a vicious Russian troll.

        • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
          November 8, 2024 at 4:26 pm

          Andys is also a mammoth closet case, making homophobic remarks as he’s being sodomized by a big Russian bear in an apartment in Saint Petersburg lit by a bare 40w lightbulb.

  18. Andys Reply
    November 6, 2024 at 8:28 pm

    Time to also pardon the J6 Patriots they were victims of government abuse and deserve justice and restitution.

    • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 2:18 pm

      Time to jail the J6 traitors for life. Or with the men, offer them freedom in exchange for castration.

      • GUWonder Reply
        November 8, 2024 at 9:54 am

        Convict-in-Chief will pardon them. Better that then an insanely costly “deport all illegals” machinery, but given the Republican Supreme Court-granted immunity he’s been given there is basically no limit to what he can get away with doing under color of “official acts” even if done in explicitly criminal ways. The only punishment for Presidential criminality is basically meaningless impeachment of the President, and even that amounts to little for a deranged old dude like Trump who is likely to have a serious health issue remove him from office before January 2029.

  19. GUWonder Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 7:00 am

    The era of robber-barons is coming back thanks to the big moneybags who placed big money bets to get a big money crook re-elected to the White House. And between riding on Biden Admin economic coattails and a flood of easy/easier money for the big money bags and other economically-privileged class that comes with a crook like Trump having one-party rule across the federal government, there ought to be a front-ended boom with a back-ended massive economic failure from a return to big inflation and/or massive cuts to the government budget of an even more extremely financially-indebted country. The young working class and nearly all of the youth of today and tomorrow will be paying a heavy price for Putinism hitting America due to too many American people putting Trump back into the White House.

    And part of the reason Harris lost is because people who are culturally deep into hegemonic masculinity a la Trump can’t get into voting for a woman into the highest administrative office in the land.

    • Alert Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 7:26 am

      Hey GU … Lighten-up Buddy .

      The Dems lost big because they were “in despair” and “wringing their hands” over the Venezuelan gang members in Venezuela , and Dems felt so sad . After the Dems brought the Venezuelan gang members into our nation , the Dems thought they would win an election because of their sweet kindness to the Venezuelan gang members ,

      Unfortunately for the Dems , the Marine Corps Gunnys mobilized all the regular Joe Schmos and elected The Donald in a landslide .

      Now , Camel-a is comforting the snowflake “gender-studies students” by advising “Don’t Despair” . And she will bring Brandon his warm milk and say ” beddy-bye” .

      • GUWonder Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 7:44 am

        I am heavy on the outcomes as they will be rather than how people may wish them to be. I see no good reason to tell people to act as if elections don’t have consequence — especially when the country votes for an American version of Putin.

        Even before this past summer, I had been expecting Trump to win this election. I was heavy on that as the expected outcome too.

    • Batchcaloupe Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 8:23 am

      More women voted than men fact yet Trump won!! How did THAT happen?

      • GUWonder Reply
        November 7, 2024 at 8:26 am

        Non-college educated women of non-African-American backgrounds were more likely this time to support Trump than they were to support Biden in 2020 and Clinton in 2016. But Trump won on male votes taking him over the top over his 2016 and 2020 performances.

        • Batchcaloupe Reply
          November 7, 2024 at 8:34 am

          Did you ever think that non university educated PEOPLE voted Trump this time is because they might be on the lower part of the ladder pay wise??

          People who are wealthy are insulated from the problems/issues that decided this election ie the economy, wages, wage growth, inflation etc.

          Your neighborhood turned to shit? I have money I can just move. Not everyone has that option.

          • GUWonder
            November 7, 2024 at 11:05 am

            Did you ever think that I am numbers person and know the correlation between educational attainment and income level? I calculate first. 😉

            And I am also well aware of how student debt is a drag on the spending power of certain groups too.

            All issues for voters decide an election, And affordability to move has little to do with being able to move neighborhoods or not because of a distaste for demographic change or lifestyle disruptions and trying to avoid such changes.

    • Chris Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 3:04 pm

      The only people that will pay a price is the afluent big city democrat elite, rural America has only to gain.

      One can’t shave a bald man and that is why they gave a double middle finger to the zip codes.

  20. Batchcaloupe Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 8:29 am

    How can Harris certify this election? After all, she is letting a fascist, a Hitler take power. We already saw her lack of character and heart when she didn’t have the guts to come out on election night when it looked as if she would lose.

    We will find out very soon if Trump is Hitler. Will he shut down media?? Will he start sending people in crowded boxcars to FEMA built reeducation camps in Wyoming? I can think of a few people that would be the first to go on that list. SARCASM ALERT!!!

    Guess what, it’s not going to happen. We will end up having the midterms in 2026 and the Republicans will probably end up losing one house or both houses of Congress.

    A bunch of freaking hyperbolic bed wetters.

    • O'Hare Is My Second Home Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 2:20 pm

      They can take me to a FEMA camp in Wyoming if they can survive capturing me. After all, my dream was to depopulate Nebraska and Kansas, surround it with razor wire, then imprison every single registered Republican inside with no shelter and only what food they could gather.

  21. derek Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 10:35 am

    Harris can be President! Biden could resign. For continuity, a President Harris could make Biden the VP (formal confirmation is by congress)

  22. Dolphin Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 11:49 am

    Let’s not forget the foreign policy effects on international route networks if Trump does resolve the Ukraine and Israel conflicts. We could see a reopening of Russian airspace, which should make some of the longer-haul routes between the US and Asia, especially on UA (think EWR-HKG, EWR-BOM, etc.), feasible again. Similarly, we could see Israel service come back if that gets resolved. Not sure about China routes, it’s harder to guess how that evolves.

    What do you think, Matt? Guys, let’s keep the comments to the topic of route networks.

    • GUWonder Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 4:27 pm

      Palm Beach-Moscow to keep the Putin-Trump bromance alive. With a fifth freedom flight to Budapest routed to allow for fuel and sewage dump on Ukraine.

  23. Al Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    How was it a surprise? Any reasonable and sensible person would realize Harris policy were either garbage or non-existent. She could not respond with any policy that were clear other than “I grew up in a middle class family…” which she did not. Matt, you’ve lost all my respect.

  24. Dave W. Reply
    November 7, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    I’m fully expecting a lot of hate for Sonia Sotomayor from the left.

    • GUWonder Reply
      November 7, 2024 at 9:41 pm

      Nowhere near as much hate as she got from MAGA before the Democratic appointees to the Court got completely marginalized by McConnell-Trump.

  25. GUWonder Reply
    November 8, 2024 at 9:46 am

    Trump’s national popular vote total currently seems to be around the same level as he got in 2020.

    Biden in 2020 had a national popular vote count over 10 million higher than Harris in 2024.

    Biden is still the popular vote record holder in the US by a large margin. Trump remains a loser in that regard.

    Final numbers are still subject to change, but this election so far seems to have had lower potentially eligible voter turnout rates than 2020.

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