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United’s Dig At Southwest Airlines

Matthew Klint Posted onMarch 14, 2019November 14, 2023 17 Comments

a plane taking off from a runway

Southwest will shortly commence service between California and Hawaii, but United wants to remind you that there are other choices.

The following appeared on United’s Twitter recently:

a map of hawaii with white text

I view the ad as a friendly and good-natured jab, but a fair point. Southwest is great for the West Coast, but not for the rest of the nation. It simply isn’t.

When I wrote about the problem of East Coast connections due to lack of redeyes on Southwest, I was met with many fierce comments from Southwest loyalists who utterly dismissed my argument. It is true that while Southwest has a hub and spoke system out of airports like Phoenix, Dallas Love, and Chicago Midway (among others), it also offers many “point-to-point” destinations with focus on local travelers rather than connections.

> Read More: Southwest’s Hawaii Experiment Is Missing One Essential Ingredient
> Read More: Prepare For A Fare War To Hawaii

Thus, it is true that Southwest can fill up its Hawaii flights with West Coast passengers. But it is also true that Southwest is making it very difficult for very loyal Southwest flyers on the East Coast to use Southwest for Hawaii travel. Who wants an overnight connection in Oakland, even with a companion pass? Why would Southwest just cede these passengers to carriers like United?

United seems to enjoy trolling Southwest, also posting a “Love” ad (Southwest’s logo includes a heart and sells using the ticker symbol LUV) from Denver, where United and Southwest compete head-on.

a map of the united states with a heart and arrows

CONCLUSION

I enjoy United’s clever Twitter ads. On the Hawaii issue, I think United makes a strong point. But that won’t stop diehard Southwest fans from either dismissing it or making the overnight double connections from Hawaii…Southwest deserves credit for that.

image: Tomás Del Coro / Wikimedia Commons

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Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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17 Comments

  1. Sexy_kitten7 Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    It’s pretty misleading to show arrows between 2 cities that don’t have nonstop service!

  2. Albert Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 12:41 pm

    I believe these are all new United/UAX routes from DEN starting at some point this year.

    • Matthew Reply
      March 14, 2019 at 1:38 pm

      Albert is correct.

      And the “Love” reference is clear!

      • Sexy_kitten7 Reply
        March 14, 2019 at 10:22 pm

        Omg! You’re right! How did I miss this? https://www.pressherald.com/2019/02/14/jetport-adds-nonstop-flight-to-denver/

  3. Andy Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    Seeing a lot of Purple at United theses days…..

  4. James Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 2:41 pm

    I flew United to Hawaii several times, not a fan. Long delays, baggage fees, ticket issues were never resolved. I will fly SWA anywhere they go. Hawaii in May. Thanks for the great service SWA.

  5. Chiguy1979 Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 3:44 pm

    I think these are both great ads. I live in Chicago and fly both carriers (and AA) several times per year. I’ve come to the conclusion that Southwest is roughly half as good as the average consumer thinks while United is about half as bad. Southwest perpetually benefits from an exaggerated halo effect while United is the company that everyone loves to hate regardless of justification. I wholly admit that United has historically managed to trip over themselves fairly often but I’ve fundamentally found them to professional, friendly, and reliable. Anecdotally, my most delayed flights have been on SWA and my worst in-flight experiences have been on SWA.

    Personal opinions aside, it seems that SWA is in midst of an identity crisis. It’s no longer the lowest cost provider. Sure, the FAs may tell funny jokes but they don’t really win on service. A transcontinental flight with only pretzels? Even Spirit and Frontier offer buy on board snacks. It’s expanded to various vacation destinations in Mexico and the Caribbean but the schedules aren’t great and, as the cancellation of the MEX flights show, it hasn’t figured out how to appeal to residents both north and south of the border. SWA acts like it is in the fight of its life to attract California fliers with “convenient” Hawaii routes but hasn’t figured out how to connect these routes to the rest of the system. How does that make any sense? Given the large populations of greater Chicago and Baltimore/Washington, one would think they would at least try to connect these to the Hawaii routes. But this Chicago flyer isn’t upset. While I do occasionally choose SWA if the price and schedule makes sense, I’ll gladly spend my money with United knowing that my loyalty is acknowledged with points that will take me further than Tulsa, Cancun, or Montego Bay. Last year’s reward flight on the upper deck of a Lufthansa 747 was incredible and I’m eager to try out Austrian business class this fall. Enjoy those pretzels!

  6. Ryan Goodman Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 4:10 pm

    I fly to/from Denver on a weekly basis. Not only does United beat SWA on scheduling, but most always on price when you consider cost of EarlyBird to match conveniences for business travelers, and even then, the difference in price is small. I’ve flown UA and DL to Hawaii a few times in the past year and it’s definitely worth a few dollars more for better timed flights/connections.

  7. Doug D Erdy Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 5:52 pm

    SWA will always have a following of loyal peeps. But 200 bucks more I get First Class, points, a United Club and a nice dinner. United is squeezing SWA and it’s gonna get worse. There is no comparison. United is first class

  8. Steve Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 6:06 pm

    Whether it makes sense or not, the fare will be the factor. If the ticket is low enough people will connect once, twice, or three times. It’s all about following the money.

  9. Mike Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 8:09 pm

    Was WN planning to use the MAX on these Hawaii flights?

  10. Steve bourne Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 8:15 pm

    United is a great option if you wanna get beaten and dragged off the plane in handcuffs for not wanting to give up your seat that you paid for.

    • Caleb Reply
      March 14, 2019 at 8:56 pm

      Because that happened, what, one time and it wasn’t even United who did it? And you’re probably the guy who pays for Early Bird and then saves seats for all his family who were too cheap to pay? Yet another reason United gets the win.

  11. William F Thomas Jr Reply
    March 14, 2019 at 8:22 pm

    Southwest is half the price to Mexico City and two bags fly free

    • Caleb Reply
      March 14, 2019 at 8:58 pm

      Not sure where you live but I’m guessing there’s no access to news. Mexico City is done – SWA couldn’t ‘make it work because it never occurred to them that maybe, just maybe, Mexico-based flyers would prefer to pay in pesos and their antiquated IT system couldn’t handle it: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2019/01/24/southwest-airlines-mexico-city-flights-end-march/2667951002/

    • henry LAX Reply
      April 5, 2019 at 11:27 am

      2 bags free is only for losers who don’t know how to pack

  12. Eric Wilson Reply
    March 15, 2019 at 1:34 pm

    Brilliant way of introducing new tactics.

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