EVA, the carrier that takes “Hello Kitty” to a whole new level, just encountered a “Hello Shitty” flight courtesy of a passenger who personifies the word disgusting.
In the age of misinformation, I’ve held off a couple days on addressing this story. I wanted to let the dust settle and see if there was another side to this story. Maybe, just maybe, there were missing facts that would shed a different light on the incident. Instead, corroboration demonstrates the tenacity of the narrative below…and how it is part of a larger pattern of disgusting behavior.
The Timeline
In case you missed earlier reports on this and because I have not written about it yet, let’s first summarize what happened. I’ve taken this account from FlyerTalk member hayzel7773:
- 2.5 hours into the flight, passenger said he needed to use the business class lavatory, claiming he could not fit into the economy class lavatory.
- The crew agreed.
- Three flight attendants plus the purser assisted him to the lavatory.
- About a minute after entering the lavatory, passenger pushed the FA call button.
- FAs opened the door, finding his genitals exposed, but his underwear still on in the back.
- Passenger warned FAs that if they did not help him remove underwear, he would go in his pants.
- As the crew removed his underwear, he spread his legs, exposing his genitals.
- FAs tried to close the door, but passenger objected, claiming shortness of breath from claustrophobia.
- Crew refused to keep the door open, but left it unlocked.
- 15 minutes later he signaled to FAs that he was finished.
- Crew opened the door and found him still seated on toilet with his pants down.
- Passenger stated, “I’m done, you can wipe my butt now.”
- FA objected.
- Passenger verbally assaulted her, saying she promised to do it.
- Threatened to remain on toilet for the remainder of the flight if his butt was not wiped.
- FAs relented, passing him a blanket to cover himself.
- He refused to cover his genitals with the blanket.
- Purser wiped while another FA watched over.
- While the purser wiped, passenger moaned, “Mmmmmm, deeper, deeper.”
- Passenger demanded the purser redo the wiping two times, saying he did not feel clean.
- After demanding a third redo, a FA just pulled up his pants.
- Passenger threatened to faint.
- FAs led passenger back to his seat.
- Later in the flight he had to defecate again; a different set of FAs ended up repeating the same process above.
- Upon disembarking the aircraft with a trio of male ground staff, passenger was asked if he needed help in restroom.
- Passenger responded that he could take care of himself.
Repeat Offender
This wasn’t the passenger’s first time on EVA.
- He flew from Los Angeles to Bangkok via Taipei in May 2018
- On that flight, he made a similar request, but FAs refused to wipe him.
- In retaliation, he went soiled his underwear in his seat.
- The whole cabin smelled terrible for the remainder of the flight.
- On another flight, he peed in his pants.
- On another flight he asked a crew member to clean and change his diaper.
- When they refused, his diaper overflowed.
- On another flight he threatened to faint and “make the crew’s life worse” if they refused to help him
- On still another flight, he spilled juice on his crotch area and demanded the crew wipe it
- The crew handed him napkins, but he replied, “You can do better.”
The EVA FAs involved in the most recent incident are so angry they have lodged the following demands via their union:
- EVA should help FAs pursue legal remedies against the passenger.
- FAs involved should be given time off.
- Blacklist the passenger.
- Make it easier to blacklist passenger.
- Improve wheelchair handling to avoid future incidents.
- Hire male FAs.
One FA shares that she “shut herself up in a toilet cubicle, vomited, and cried” as a result of the encounter.
Here’s video of the passenger leaving the aircraft:
My Take
Even if we go out of our way to give this man the benefit of the doubt, the facts point toward only one conclusion: he has a pattern of perverted behavior that manipulates vulnerable women.
That’s it. I see no other conclusion based upon the facts. He’s Andy Pipkin incarnate. (Pipkin is a fictions character in the TV series Little Britain who feigns being handicapped in order to work the system). See below for proof and the uncanny resemblance:
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert on Taiwanese culture, but initial efforts by EVA to BLAME FLIGHT ATTENDANTS for agreeing to wipe this man’s butt in the first place are not convincing. My own flights on EVA and time in Taiwan reveal a service-oriented work culture that frowns upon not honoring customer requests.
Yes, earlier incidents showed that FAs need not give in. Even so, the story placed the FAs in a very difficult, if not impossible, situation. Blaming the FAs for what happened is like blaming abuse victims for inviting abuse on themselves. Furthermore, some FAs have suggested that EVA issued a warning to FAs after they refused to wipe this man’s butt on a flight to Taipei last year.
But EVA makes clear on its website and FA manual that flight attendants will not help a passenger inside the lavatory. If this passenger was really in need of assistance, he should have brought an aide along with him.
CONCLUSION
Let’s be discerning. Look at the man’s past practice. Look at the words he used. And look at his refusal to accept help from males once on the ground. He may well be a mentally sick man, but his behavior cannot be excused and EVA should never subject FAs to this passenger again. He needs help, not more flights. I hope he is blacklisted.
What do you think?
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image: Taiwan English News
Help? I hope he dies. You think he causes this type of irritation to only FAs? You think on the ground hes just so much more caring and considerate of others. No, hes a gross fat overweight pos in the air so he’s still a fat gross pos on the ground. There’s some people this world would be better without. Since you compare the treatment to that of an abuser especially when it seems in a sick perverted way it means he’ll never change so like all pedos let’s save a ton of money and shoot them instead of in prison them and save us all tax money.
The thing that jumps out to me is the refusal of assistance from male personnel on the ground. He’s repeatedly flying an airline with only female flights attendants, threatens to s*** himself if they don’t take off his underwear (after he’s already exposed himself, of course), and wipe his a**. My guess would be the man is mentally ill and/or a pervert. How have they not blacklisted him yet?
Baffled why he wasn’t blacklisted the first time or on a do not fly list. Hopefully, the EVA will step up and protect their flight attendants.
Agree with comment #1, a POS no matter where he is.
“Yeah, but…no, but…yeah, but…”
Perhaps it should read “butt”?
No surprise he was headed to Thailand. The fact that he is overweight makes this even more disgusting.
Would love to see him having this behavior in a US airline. I think he would never do #2 again. I feel very sorry for the FAs that had to deal with this garbage.
My first thought when I saw this story. He must be going to Thailand. As I read through it appears to be the case ha ha
I’m a bit surprised by the role of white privilege in American culture, but just how common is this sort of thing?
I don’t know, Joe, how common is it in your country to turn all issues into something about race? How common is it to feel it’s ok to make racist remarks as long as it is against a white person?
Not as common as a white snowflake crying about persecution of white men.
Yeah right, suddenly racist comments are just about ppl being oversensitive.
Somehow I suspect your viewpoint would be different if it was a minority crying victimhood. You’re no better than those you rail against.
Sorry, but you libs own the snowflake moniker.
Wtf?
Extremely rare. Stupid question.
What a retard.
You sound angry. Were you denied a wipedown as well by attendants?
I’m a white male. When I ride my Lambretta down the street people drop to their knees and bow down. Sometimes they throw gold coins. Such is my life. It’s really pretty great.
Joe,
This has nothing to do with ‘white privilege’. I work in a hospital ER and we see this sort of behavior all the time, in people of all races. It’s disgusting and I wish it were easier to prosecute perverts like this for sexual assault.
Several things for and against the passenger.
For
1. It is possible that he has difficulty wiping. I injured my shoulder last year and it was painful to my shoulder to wipe then it became almost impossible. I learned to use my other hand. The orthopedic surgeon said, believe it or not, that one has to rotate their shoulder to reach back.
2. The man is ugly, fat, and has wild hair and beard. This can cause lack of sympathy.
3. He did not take off his pants in public, just in the lavatory. Nursing home aides see genitals all the time. Wives and girlfriends see male genitals, too, but this is not always true with lesbians.
4. Very possible the flight attendants didn’t wipe clean so he asked them to wipe “deeper”. When I was 3, my mom wiped me. I didn’t learn how to do it until later at age 3 or even age 4.
Against
1. Very possible the passenger is being too demanding. Saying he’ll do something if they don’t do something.
2. Looks like he can walk because the photo shows no cane or walker and he’s sitting in the galley seat, not his own seat (where a cane might be stowed away out of sight of the camera). He does have a cane but might sufficient strength to not always lean on it.
3. “make the crew’s life worse” is very nasty of him to say
I lean towards that the passenger is a trouble maker but think the fight attendants might visit a nursing home to see not everyone can run through airport terminals like OJ Simpson.
Since he is very overweight, his genitalia probably looks very small. Less shocking (or maybe more) than a slim man.
Unsaid is that if one is very overweight, it is difficult for them to not smell due to sweat in the folds of skin.
I’m outraged that this is man is being targeted due to his weight!
https://www.philhendrieshow.com/category/character-clips/roland-schwinn/
Hi please refund my Fat Pride membership dues now that I’ve slimmed down to a size 14.
Roland, isn’t that man your cousin, who’s also the Board Secretary of Fat Pride?
This guy deserves the David Dao treatment. Dr. Dao did not.
A couple thoughts:
1) I have read that he previously flew Thai Airways and has been banned from that airline.
2) Obesity is real and obese people fly. But if you need assistance – travel with a companion or hire a travel caregiver/escort – happens all the time. If this is not his first trip – he can afford it.
3) Perhaps all carriers should have at least one member of each sex onboard to deal with situations like this or other religious requirements.
4) Obviously flying to the sex trade capitol of the world. Sad.
Gross though this certainly is, it’s unfair to suggest that his destination is relevant to the story. 99.9999999% of visitors are just plain old tourists and most of them unrelated to the sex industry. For sure, some go for that activity but the suggestion that that is somehow germane to a story about this pathetic freak is drawing a very long bow.
Yes, he should be banned for life: 3 separate incidents is more than reasonable proof of a pattern.
I have never been to Bangkok because I don’t want to be accused of being a pervert. I once had a flight connection at BKK and was almost ashamed to accept the routing.
after read ths, my first tought on this man is: EWWWWWW
well, I know he is handicap, obese, and ugly… but EVA must consider hire Male FA from now. even I’m a man, but come on, that man behavior is way too perverted and too nasty. not because he is american or white, but he take advantages that he is obese and handicap, and that is NOT GOOD AT ALL.
Even though she is a FA that being paid to act polite and helpfull for us, we still need to show courtesy toward them. they help us to make our journey on air pleasing, so do our smile and “thank you” make they feel their job enjoyable.
they still human and not an object.
Pity that FAs got to deal with such gross passengers. Instead of wiping his a**, they should just hose him.
Gross! Just nasty. There is no way FA’s should be required to provide that kind of personal care (i.e. butt wiping) for any passenger. If he legitimately needs that, then he should have brought an attendant with him to provide that kind of care. Also, it’s pretty clear he is working the system for his own weird sexual gratification. EVA should ban him for life.
Those poor FA’s! Sure gives new meaning to the phrase “a shitty day at work”.
I have flown with my disabled husband from LAX to TPE numerous times. We flew EVA business class in order for me to accompany him to the lavatory. The FAs helped pushing the onboard wheelchair & helped holding the door opened/closed for us every time we visited the lavatory. We appreciated their help & tried not to bother them as much as possible. So, when I heard this incident, I felt very angry. How could this guy do this to those young FAs? Does he have any shame at all? If he could afford to fly so many times, he could afford to hire a caregiver to travel with him. If he can’t, he is not fit to fly.
Thanks for your comment. I fully agree with you.