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10% Of KLM Passengers Test Positive For COVID-19 Upon Arrival From South Africa – What Are The Ramifications?

Matthew Klint Posted onNovember 27, 2021November 14, 2023 103 Comments

a group of people wearing face masks

10% of passengers onboard a pair of KLM flights from South Africa to Amsterdam tested positive onboard for COVID-19 upon arrival. The ramifications for international travel are not comforting.

10% of KLM Passengers From South African Flights Test Positive in AMS

Upon landing in Amsterdam Schiphol, KL598 from Cape Town and KL592 from Johannesburg were kept on the ground for several hours. After four hours, passengers were transported to a testing area where each was administered a COVID-19 test. Roughly 10% of the results, totaling 61 passengers over the two flights, returned positive.

Those passengers are now undergoing mandatory quarantine. Dutch citizens and residents were allowed to travel home to quarantine while foreign nationals were placed in a hotel to quarantine. Connecting passengers who tested negative were allowed to continue to their final destinations with instructions to quarantine upon arrival.

Positive Tests Raise Testing Questions

KLM has a testing requirement for flights from South Africa to the Netherlands. All passengers, whether ending in their journey in Amsterdam or connecting to another destination, were required to present a rapid antigen coronavirus test, taken not more than 24 hours before boarding their flight to the Netherlands. Vaccines were not required, though a self-imposed quarantine upon arrival was.

Thus, our first question is why so many tested positive? We don’t know how many have tested positive with the new omicron variant, but we are faced with a couple options. First, the tests may have been forged either directly by the passengers or by the rapid testing centers in South Africa. Second, could it be that the omicron variant really is 500% more transmissible? It could also be that neither option is the correct one.

Will Omicron Variant Ground Air Travel Around World?

Let’s move to the theoretical for a moment. Let’s just say this new omicron variant is highly transmissible. How will the world respond? Expect shutdowns and suspension of air traffic across Europe and Asia. We saw yesterday that nations will ban traffic from other nations at a moment’s notice. I suspect most of us recall how rapidly the world shut down in March 2020.

Are we headed for an encore performance? I certainly hope not. The evidence is not present yet to justify it and arguably no evidence could justify it. But I mention it now not to scare or instill fear or to send you on toilet paper runs to Costco, but because the tiny bits of incremental data we do have are alarming and nations have erred on the side of conservative caution throughout the pandemic.

Again, my point here is not to scare you, but to prepare you for what may happen. We should hope and pray that this latest twist to the virus is more benign than lethal. I would hope that many if not all of the 61 passengers onboard were asymptomatic.

But make no mistake: this latest variant is already in our midst. If it’s in Hong Kong, it’s in the USA and Canada and probably every Western European nation as well.

So now we wait and see. We should know tonight how many of the KLM passengers have the omicron variant. Within the next week, we should have the data we need to better understand the latest twist to our long battle against a microscopic virus.

CONCLUSION

61 passengers tested positive for COVID-19 on a pair of KLM flights from South Africa, totaling 10% of passengers onboard. With the aircraft sitting on the ground for hours and many passengers not wearing masks onboard, those numbers will probably rise over the next few days.

And if you would like further evidence of why there is no hope for humans, now we know that stat and still probably 30% of ppl are wearing no mask or only over mouth. Dutch authorities not enforcing. We’re just all in this unventilated room at hour 12, breathing on each other.

— Stephanie Nolen (@snolen) November 27, 2021

We need more data. These flights do suggest that omicron is more easily spreadable than past variants. It hardly suggests it is resistant to vaccines, since vaccinations rates remain low in South Africa. We are talking about two flights and don’t even know if the infected passengers have omicron, delta, or another variant. So for now, we wait.

But do be prepared: if the manner in which governments reacted to South Africa’s omicron disclosure on Friday is any indication, we may shortly see more border closures and flight cancellations.

image: KLM passengers from South Africa anxiously wait for their test results at Schiphol Airport (@jschultebockum / Twitter)

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103 Comments

  1. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 11:54 am

    the Great Reset continues on, full steam ahead.

    • Ac Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 11:59 am

      World Economic Forum: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

      Might sound good on paper, but positive for humanity it’s *NOT*.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:00 pm

      World Economic Forum: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

      Might sound good on paper, but positive for humanity it’s *NOT*.

  2. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 11:55 am

    Happy new variant weekend. Again.

    https://i.ibb.co/JsLxdVq/43-EECBD1-F6-D9-4-EFD-85-F9-5698-FD181192.png

  3. Dave Edwards Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 11:56 am

    Omicron unscrambled spells Moronic. Says it all, doesn’t it?

    We already know how it plays out in America and to most of us the rest of the world doesn’t matter.

    Liberals panic, regular Americans go about their lives, government wastes more money and the lazy find excuses to not work. Rinse and repeat.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:04 pm

      Rinse and repeat, ain’t that the truth:

  4. Stuart Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 11:59 am

    I think this is a well balanced approach at what could potentially occur here. Much still to know but yes, if this is an indication, and it’s found the new strain is better at evading immunity, spreads easier in environment like planes, and makes people as sick in the same numbers as Delta and Wuhan, we will see a complete closure of travel worldwide. Still many ifs, but the KLM example so far is not encouraging.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:34 pm

      Well balanced? please, Stuart, your policies have already ruined the financial lives of hundreds of millions or billions worldwide. Give it a rest.

      https://i.ibb.co/D5Kykdn/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-12-32-30-PM.png

  5. PM Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:02 pm

    From the KLM link: “Passengers are allowed to transit via Amsterdam on KLM flights (inside EU and outside EU), as long as they meet their final destination requirements.’

    I am willing to bet that over half of the pax had onward connections to other countries, many of which do not require pre-departure testing [at least for the vaccinated]. KLM rely more heavily on connecting pax than the other European majors. They fly to a huge amount of places, including secondary airports with few other carriers, in N. Europe (before the pandemic, they had 16 destinations in the UK alone).

    It may well be that the new variant is more transmissible but less potent than previous ones- that would likely be a positive development.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:15 pm

      My understanding is that KLM requires all passengers to have a negative test even if transiting. If that is not the case, I wish someone from KLM would confirm. That’s my reading of the website and also what other media outlets have reported.

      • Mitch Cumstein Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 12:25 pm

        It wasn’t the case for me a few weeks ago. Only needed a test if the destination required it. Mine didn’t, so no test and no issues. Could have changed of course.

      • Sean M. Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 1:19 pm

        Not the case. Depending on destination a vax certificate was sufficient.

        My understanding is that the bulk of the cases on these flights did not hold PCRs (may have held antigen tests however).

    • Zee K Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 12:33 am

      The laws in South Africa are that you cannot leave South Africa via any port without a negative PCR (not rapid) test taken within 48 hours of travel regardless of any of the destination or airline requirements. Believe me when I say the testing labs in South Africa are world class and the checks at airports quite professional. Just trying the dispel any uninformed suggestions that the passengers may not have been tested before departure or that the tests may be forged

      • Matthew Klint Reply
        November 28, 2021 at 12:38 am

        But what’s to stop passengers from forging tests? PDFs can be so easily modified.

        • Zee K Reply
          November 28, 2021 at 12:51 am

          QR codes not as much to forge Matthew. I don’t dispute that there can be forgery but the chances of getting identified are high and the risk is not worth it. In some African destinations a fake covid test can result in imprisonment, so it’s not worth the risk, especially when flying. Land borders, maybe. I’m just saying the profile of the passengers on KLM as well, so doubt a whole 10% of them would go for fake certificates – just my view on this

          • Matthew Klint
            November 28, 2021 at 12:56 am

            I think you’re right. I’m just amazed at how many cases there onboard if everyone had fresh tests prior to the flight.

        • Max Reply
          November 28, 2021 at 1:14 am

          @Matthew – even if you are a legitimate test provider (ie have legal access to verification infrastructure) it is terribly simple to fake a test by not doing the swap correctly. I can’t count the number of times the swab wasn’t up far enoug or in my nose long enough for there to be any meaningful sample collection….and my tests were all in Germany and France…

          • Matthew Klint
            November 28, 2021 at 1:15 am

            Yes. I had one of those tests recently in Thailand. I loved it.

  6. Bobo Bolinski Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:07 pm

    When all the flights shut down, and world travel is off-limits again for another year or two, you can thank all the morons — Republican a**holes and their brethren — who refuse to wear a mask (or wear it properly), deny that the pandemic is real, deny objective facts, and simply refuse to act like adults.

    “And if you would like further evidence of why there is no hope for humans, now we know that stat and still probably 30% of ppl are wearing no mask or only over mouth. Dutch authorities not enforcing. We’re just all in this unventilated room at hour 12, breathing on each other.

    — Stephanie Nolen (@snolen) November 27, 2021”

    It’s you sh*twads who are responsible for this pandemic continuing. Not complicated.

    • Joe Biden Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:21 pm

      Dr. Fauci and I are considering a new mandate to surgically stitch the masks to everyone’s faces.

      • Acura Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 12:28 pm

        I am sure they are – just like similar satanic medical experiments performed by the Nazi’s in WWII. Those scientists were killed after the Nuremberg trials and they should be, as well.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:24 pm

      I am not a Republican or their brethren however I’ll be happy to counter your comments about masks. Why are we even having this mask conversation at all? Rinse and repeat.

      —

      Masks do not prevent virus respiratory illness.

      Viruses are 50x smaller than bacteria and 1000x smaller than a hair

      size of bacteria = 5 micrometer (5 μm)

      size of particles in wood smoke (wildfire): 0.4-0.7 micrometers (0.5 μm)

      size of virus = 0.1 micrometer (Influenza and SARS-CoV-2) (0.1 μm)

      comparison: human hair is 100 micrometers (100 μm)

      (one million micrometers = one meter)

      CDC: “Masks do not catch small, harmful particles in smoke.”

      —

      From The New England Journal of Medicine:

      “It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals. Although such
      reactions may not be strictly logical, we are all subject to fear and anxiety, especially during times of crisis. One might argue that fear and anxiety are better countered with data and education than with a marginally beneficial mask, particularly in light of the worldwide mask shortage, but it is difficult to get clinicians to hear this message in the heat of the current crisis. Expanded masking protocols’ greatest contribution may be to reduce the transmission of anxiety, over and above whatever role they may play in reducing transmission of Covid-19.”

      —

      also from The New England Journal of Medicine:

      “We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.”

      —

      there are literally hundreds of studies on this, until the bought and paid for science changed in 2020 to support masking.

      Give it up, bruh.

      • Adam L Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 1:00 pm

        Just in case you’re wondering, the authors of the studies cited in the NEJM explain how their study was taken out of context and how that they very much support mask wearing among the general public as a way to decrease transmission. Do not let armchair doctors try to confuse you.

        https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/22/fact-check-new-england-journal-medicine-article-face-masks-coronavirus-covid-19-spread/5454384002/

        • Acura Reply
          November 27, 2021 at 1:10 pm

          well, thanks. a USA Today ‘fact check’, color me shocked. I’m still not convinced. as I said, there are still hundreds of studies from pre-2020 communism on masks not being effective.

          but for now, to appease you, I’ll stick with the latest regarding the vaccine from the NEJM then:

          Researchers in the New England Journal of Medicine raise the possibility of an uncontrolled autoimmune response to the coronavirus spike protein that may last indefinitely

          https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-frightening-new-potential-explanation

          • Acura
            November 27, 2021 at 4:05 pm

            “Downstream effects of the antibodies that people produce against the coronavirus spike protein may lead to myocarditis and even neurological concerns, two veteran medical researchers have written in the top medical journal in the United States.”

        • Acura Reply
          November 27, 2021 at 3:52 pm

          https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2113694

    • cargocult Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 2:25 pm

      The objective truth, according to actual studies, is that mask mandates don’t work. Maybe if you could get everyone to wear N95s property, that would work, but this is never going to happen. Thank folx like Fauci lying about masks from the very beginning of the pandemic for losing the public’s trust. The two major RCTs on mask efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 also show masks don’t work. The Bangladeshi one indicates perhaps an 11% relative reduction in infection (8.6% of people in control groups reported symptoms while 7.6% in treatment groups did) that is hardly conclusive and the methodology of the study is flawed in many ways. There is no conclusive evidence that masking works, so quit bleating about the “science.” It does not back up your position.

      Blacks lag other groups in vaccination. Those damned anti-science MAGA white supremacists are keeping this pandemic going, amirite?

      https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-by-race-ethnicity/

      The vaccines certainly aren’t stopping the spread. Lose weight. Shield the old and sick. Let the rest of us get herd immunity. You cannot stop nature. Quit blaming people for a virus that is gonna virus. Do blame people for lying about the origins of the virus and what we can do to fight it.

      • Acura Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 3:30 pm

        Excellence. PERIOD.

  7. Mark S Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:29 pm

    Matthew. You need to delete politically charged unfounded stupid posts like the one made by this idiot Bobo. I’m be sure those KLM planes were packed with “ Republicans and their Brethren “. Or are they sh!twads on the plane?

    Whatever crackpot theories and accusations this uneducated jerk has to say, it shouldn’t be on your travel website as no one wants to read it.

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 12:34 pm

      The profanity will be deleted. Our new comments policy has been pushed to next week, but will be revealed soon.

      • Joe Biden Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 1:11 pm

        Censorship can’t come fast enough, these commenters are ruining my credibility.

  8. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:31 pm

    NEW – #Omicron variant causes “mild disease,” the chairwoman of the South African Medical Association says.

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/south-african-medical-association-says-omicron-variant-causes-mild-disease/articleshow/87949404.cms

  9. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:38 pm

    ‘It’s Coming’ – Gov. Hochul declares State of Emergency in NY amid omicron fears

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/its-coming-gov-hochul-announces-state-of-emergency-in-ny-amid-omicron-fears

    Anyone who falls for ANOTHER dark winter really needs clinical care.

    SPOILER ALERT:

    THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ANOTHER VARIANT.

  10. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:44 pm

    Since we’re shutting down travel to certain countries due to a new variant, how about we close the southern border, you know, just to be safe?

    Anyway, variant fear mongering aside, the Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein child sex ring and child trafficking trial starts Monday. How many knew that? Not many.

    What convenient timing. This divine order is something else.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 2:02 pm

      https://www.instagram.com/p/CWwhzMUPmn8/

  11. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:52 pm

    https://i.ibb.co/mDyrJPH/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-12-50-50-PM.png

    Cheers.

  12. Efer Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    The circus must continue at all costs.

  13. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:54 pm

    “When nearly every mainstream media outlet, their corporate subsidiaries and “fact checkers” are all lockstep in unison and synchronized with their rollout and narrative of a topic in the same day, it’s not news.

    It should be called what it really is. Psychological manipulation.”

    https://twitter.com/JasonBassler1/status/1464619326594437121

  14. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:55 pm

    Pfizer Stock Hits Record High, Moderna Surges On New Covid Variant Discovery

    https://www.thestreet.com/markets/pfizer-stock-leaps-moderna-surges-on-new-covid-variant-discovery

  15. Tom Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 12:57 pm

    “ And if you would like further evidence of why there is no hope for humans…” oh give it a rest already. I’d love to ask the people in her life how exhausting it must be to be around her. I feel bad for those that had to be around her for those 12 hours. Forget Covid — I’d take that over listening to her self important bullsh*t rant. Journalists think they’re celebrities.

  16. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    “The sooner people come to terms with the fact that COVID isn’t going away, and that with each new variant, eventually the vaccine will be as effective as the flu shot (if even that), the sooner people will decide they don’t want to live with perpetual lockdowns and mandates.”

    Most people are still looking at this as “until the pandemic is over”.

    This ain’t a pandemic. This is endemic.

    Seriously, who here believes that this newest omicron variant is only in South Africa, and that air travel restrictions will keep it there?”

    https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1464394413082390533

    —

    en·dem·ic
    /enˈdemik/

    adjective

    (of a disease or condition) regularly found among particular people or in a certain area.

    denoting an area in which a particular disease is regularly found.

    Definitions from Oxford Languages

  17. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 1:05 pm

    New variant hysteria comes from same institution that popularized lockdowns & previous COVID scares

    https://dossier.substack.com/p/nu-variant-hysteria-originated-with

    Exact. Same. Playbook.

  18. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 1:14 pm

    218 Athletes Suffer Cardiac Arrest, 107 Die, After COVID Shot

    https://archive.md/CF4up#selection-285.0-291.66

    The so-called health-professionals running the COVID shot programs around the world keep repeating that “the COVID shot is a normal vaccine and it is safe and effective.”

    So in response to their pronouncement, here is a non-exhaustive and continuously growing list of young athletes who died in 2021 after receiving one or more COVID shots. Initially, many of these were not reported. We know that many were told not to tell anyone about their adverse reactions and the media was not reporting them. They didn’t just start happening. The mainstream media still are not reporting most, but sports news cannot ignore the fact that soccer players and many others collapse in the middle of a game due to a heart attack.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 1:18 pm

      After Another Soccer Player Collapses on the Field, Former Pro and Sky News Sports Announcer Calls for Investigation

      https://thefreethoughtproject.com/soccer-player-collapses-star-calls-for-investigation/

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 1:19 pm

      German Authorities Report ‘Puzzling’ Surge in Heart Disease Among Young Soccer Players

      https://newspunch.com/german-authorities-report-puzzling-surge-in-heart-disease-among-young-soccer-players/

  19. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    Dear humanity: we’re in the weak men section of the chart, if you haven’t already noticed.

    https://i.ibb.co/FbwRpxz/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-1-52-37-PM.png

  20. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 1:57 pm

    Dear liberals: https://i.ibb.co/Zx8VB8F/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-1-50-13-PM.png

  21. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 2:08 pm

    “Experts” told you if you complied with lockdowns, censorship, masks and vaccinations—life would return to normal.

    “Conspiracy theorists” told you Covid was never going to end, and governments would use it to usher in a totalitarian new world order.

    Who do you believe now?

    https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1464657075724767237

  22. cargocult Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    @Acura

    Dude, chill. Blasting the comments the way you are doing is not helpful. You realize folx who disagree with you are not going to be convinced by Twitter, Instagram or even Substack posts, I hope. You have to use more “neutral” (if such a thing exists) or left-leaning sources. I refer directly to sources like the CDC and the UK COVID-19 vaccine surveillance, as well as medical/epidemiological studies. Folx like Aaron and UA-CCP cannot respond substantively, so they resort to insults.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 3:03 pm

      Cargo: I get what you’re saying but since this an actual war (see insane quote below) and they are destroying tons of people financially in the process, so thought it was worth it. This is what we are up against. We don’t have time for left-leaning sources to catch up, seeing they are about six months behind. Even if I change one mind, it’s worth it to me. If Matthew directly asks me to stop, I will.

      https://i.ibb.co/RTWbCrc/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-2-03-26-PM.png

      • Acura Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 3:49 pm

        Here’s the New England Journal of Medicine link from 11/24: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcibr2113694

      • Acura Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 4:07 pm

        “Downstream effects of the antibodies that people produce against the coronavirus spike protein may lead to myocarditis and even neurological concerns, two veteran medical researchers have written in the top medical journal in the United States.”

        and the problem is me, cargo? agree to disagree but I don’t think so.

        • Levi Flight Reply
          November 27, 2021 at 4:42 pm

          The research points to this possibly being the cause of long Covid that effect 25% of those infected.

          We are not seeing long Covid effects of taking vaccines.

          • Acura
            November 27, 2021 at 4:51 pm

            Sure, Jan. tell that to my cousin currently at the hospital in Dallas, RIGHT NOW, with his husband, who had a heart attack and massive vision problems after his 2nd dose. I guess you’ll only understand when it hits home for you.

  23. Santastico Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 2:45 pm

    10%? Who cares??? Covid is here to stay and everyone will get it one way or other. Masks won’t do anything other than a false sense of safety. Life goes on but Government wants to control people’s lives so continue to instill panicc.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 3:08 pm

      the Great Reset is about more than just control, although that is a key factor, of course.

      it’s more about bankrupting the 99%.

      panic is just a tool in their arsenal.

  24. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 3:46 pm

    LMAO. Everyone should do this.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CWynQ_zF42u/

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 12:58 am

      second LMAO of the day

      https://twitter.com/Cotton4Prez/status/1464748115731402752

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 1:06 am

      third. “These are the people applauded as heroes by the Biden administration.”

      https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzX8AFF8D6/

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 1:35 am

      fourth. George Costanza, 2025.

      https://i.ibb.co/30mQ3pQ/Screen-Shot-2021-11-28-at-1-34-02-AM.png

  25. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 3:47 pm

    Liberals on their way to get their 7th booster in order to stay healthy.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CWdqd6FjuIG/

  26. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    “You know what, It’s going to be hard for me to have sympathy for the vaxed that look down on the unvaxed like we are the scum of the earth. When those adverse effects really start ramping up”

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CWytJN0lrgu/

  27. derek Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    This may show that N95 masks are the best protection and vaccination is second, not vice versa.

    BBC News: The variant was first reported to the World Health Organization from South Africa on Wednesday, with early evidence suggesting it has a higher re-infection risk….A top UK health official warned that vaccines would “almost certainly” be less effective against the new variant.

    But Professor James Naismith, a structural biologist from the University of Oxford, added: “It is bad news but it’s not doomsday.”

    sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59442149 and http://www.bbc.com/news/world-59442129

  28. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 4:36 pm

    Delta and now Omicron. You only think it exists because they tell you it does. You have zero proof otherwise.

    —

    This take still holding up strong month later with the arrival of Omicron:

    https://twitter.com/SimDisrespecter/status/1464446015696633860

    • Levi Flight Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 4:45 pm

      @moderator – this poster is ranting nonsense. Recommend you clean up the chat.

      • Acura Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 4:49 pm

        actually not nonsense. Our side will be proven correct in time.

        we are being proven correct

        every.
        single.
        hour.

        every.
        single.
        day.

  29. Rick Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 4:38 pm

    Why were people allowed to remove the masks while sitting on the plane on the tarmac ? Dutch federal law requires masks on at all times while on public transport which includes airplanes.

    • Mitch Cumstein Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 5:23 pm

      It’s simply not enforced. AMS didn’t even require masks in the airport until December last year, and when they adopted a requirement there were always a significant number who didn’t wear them, including the police and immigration agents.

  30. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 6:53 pm

    “Anyone know where I can go to get a COVID test that tells me if I have original COVID, Delta or Omicron?

    No…

    That’s what I thought.”

    https://twitter.com/RepMontague/status/1464639494179758080

  31. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 7:17 pm

    Important.

    “It’s quite evident that is exactly what we are living through. And they haven’t seen nothin yet.”

    https://i.ibb.co/FYP6Fvt/Screen-Shot-2021-11-27-at-7-14-22-PM.png

  32. carletonm Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 7:27 pm

    So those who think masks do not have any benefit will be happy to have the surgeon in the operating room, who cuts them open next time, not wear one.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 7:38 pm

      some of avoid surgeons and operating rooms and stay holistically healthy. it may sound mean but the truth of the matter is that your health is not my responsibility. My health is not your responsibility. Your health is YOUR responsibility. you want to wear a mask, fine? go ahead. wear a mask until the end of time. we’re literally fine with that.. All we are fighting for us is the CHOICE and FREEDOM to make that decision for OURSELVES. let freedom ring.

      • Matt Reply
        November 27, 2021 at 10:01 pm

        Good luck using holistic medicine to save your life when your appendix bursts. Or any of hundreds of other things that you need actual medicine and surgery for. All of the comments you’ve posted here, including the asinine memes that are wildly misleading, make you look *insane*.

        Matthew please don’t let your site be overwhelmed by this nonsense.

        • Acura Reply
          November 27, 2021 at 10:04 pm

          You’re entitled to your opinion. Sticks and stones. Who is to say that you are not the insane? Western medicine has its time and place. Masks on planes and appendix bursts are apples and oranges.

  33. Norris Lee Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 8:14 pm

    @Acura: Could you please stop comment bombing the comments section with excessive posts and links. I doubt many people want to read them. Go on Facebook et al. and “share” these articles there. Social media is already worthless and fully out of control with toxic junk. We all know how to look up information when we want to.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 8:28 pm

      Happened to have the time today and it seemed like an important juncture in history to do so. If you haven’t noticed, most people in the comments section on here have no clue. So, if one person wakes up, however unlikely, it’s worth the effort today and on the other days in the past. It is more than likely that Matthew plans to shut down free speech next week with his comments section overhaul anyway. Gotta get everything in while I can 🙂

  34. Jan Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 9:15 pm

    Holy sh!t @Acura, what cocaine are you on? If your inane rants’ goal is to convince the literal leftists here in the comment section I would say you’re not doing a good job.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 9:46 pm

      Oh, Jan! It’s you. I mentioned you earlier.

      No one else is doing it. someone has to.

      Some of us are not letting this country go down without a fight. that’s where you underestimated us.

      Your bad!

      • Jan Reply
        November 28, 2021 at 12:54 pm

        You definitely think me for something else, for one I won’t use sockpuppets in a silly comments section.

        But thanks for letting us know that you’re special; I won’t pick on you like I do the Dick Bupkisses and UA-NYCs of the world.

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 9:50 pm

      And it’s not cocaine. It’s distillate and Asperger’s.

      https://www.surterra.com/product/cakez-hover-distillate/

  35. Acura Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 9:55 pm

    “While you were eating…

    The Biden regime nominated a leading China simp as Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve.

    No corporate media reported on who Lael Brainard really is, nor who her husband is linked to…

    We expose it, here:”

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1464648818557964291

  36. Jorge Paez Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 10:14 pm

    When are we going to require vaccinations to fly or to participate in any societal activities ?
    It is long overdue. And to those covidiots who object-put a sock in it. You don’t get to kill my children with your stupidity.
    You just don’t!

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 10:33 pm

      You are the actual pandemic. The pandemic of those all those who were [dead] wrong and can’t admit it. You received a vaccine for political reasons AFTER saying you wouldn’t take any vaccines created during the Trump administration. Complete 180. It’s not our fault you choose to do that. You trusted the science and trusted the propaganda. We’re not going to live in fear like you. We have faith in our immune systems. try it. it’s liberating. Be free.

    • cargocult Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 12:51 pm

      Enough with the “killing your kids.” You are doing more harm to them by instilling such insane attitudes than anything else. Your children, just like all other children, are at virtually ZERO risk of dying from COVID-19. As of Nov. 24, only 621 deaths with COVID-19 between ages 0-17 were reported over the course of the entire pandemic. Do you allow your kids to get in motor vehicles? Someone call child protective services on this literal murderer!

      From a new CDC study: “ [C]linicians and public health practitioners should consider vaccinated persons who become infected with SARS-CoV-2 to be no less infectious than unvaccinated persons.”

      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.11.12.21265796v1

  37. Jorge Paez Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 10:22 pm

    “No amount of evidence could justify a shutdown?”
    Mr. K, you are a selfish fool.
    Enjoy your writing but now you are
    advocating people die so you can collect
    your rubber duckies.
    So disappointed in you…..

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 10:31 pm

      Not at all what I am advocating and this is really not about me or my own travels, but about a much larger societal cost-benefit analysis.

  38. Stuart Reply
    November 27, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    An update to this via the WaPo is that Dutch authorities have just said that “so far dozens of those tested have been for the Omicron variant.”

    • Acura Reply
      November 27, 2021 at 11:34 pm

      I already addressed this above and now pasted below. Where did they find these tests? They are literally creating crap out of thin air at this point. And of course children now are most at risk.. right at the moment they are trying to push vaxing kids? Like how blatant do you need it to be at this point? I guess Hillary was right during the Benghazi hearings. “What difference, at this point, does it make?” Y’all are pretty far gone if you can’t see this charade.

      Acura
      November 27, 2021 at 6:53 pm
      “Anyone know where I can go to get a COVID test that tells me if I have original COVID, Delta or Omicron?

      No…

      That’s what I thought.”

      https://twitter.com/RepMontague/status/1464639494179758080

  39. Dan Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 12:08 am

    TLDR Acura is high as balls. @Matthew is this what you want for your comment section?

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 12:16 am

      Actually not high as balls right now and never high as balls, really. But that sounds nice, and wish I that was, considering been dealing with y’all.

      It’s purple punch before bed, but that’s a long time go.

      https://www.surterra.com/product/purple-punch-drift-distillate/

      ‘This true indica strain is a cross between Larry OG and the classic Granddaddy Purp. It has a sweet, berry-like aroma and may help you experience full-body relaxation and a peaceful, euphoric mood.

      Indica strains are generally believed to be calming and sedative, with most people experiencing an allover relaxed effect in both their body and mind. Specific results will vary by person, strain and product.’

      Try it.. better than the vax, at least.

      • Acura Reply
        November 28, 2021 at 12:17 am

        long time to go*

        it’s early.

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 12:18 am

      TLDR; is this what you want for humanity?

      https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzb-T2vF58/

      • Acura Reply
        November 28, 2021 at 1:30 am

        or this?

        https://www.instagram.com/p/CWzyzVQA3WG/

  40. Acura Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 1:20 am

    Biden and Fauci’s Omicron travel ban ‘worse than useless,’ critics say

    https://nypost.com/2021/11/27/biden-and-faucis-omicron-travel-ban-worse-than-useless-critics/

  41. Ken Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 2:01 am

    How pathetic that people use a travel blog to endlessly argue their points about mask efficacy. Just embarrassing.

    • Acura Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 2:36 am

      there’s like twenty or thirty other points made in these comments besides masks. what is it about masks that is so upsetting?

      • Dan Reply
        November 28, 2021 at 11:25 am

        Nobody is clicking your stupid links.

  42. emercycrite Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 3:57 am

    Watch the travel and hospitality industry grind to a halt again.

  43. Stuart Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 9:23 am

    One of Portugal’s premier Football teams had 17 players and coaches test positive for Covid yesterday after a player returned from South Africa two days before. They were unable to field a team and the game was halted. You would have to assume most of them were vaccinated.

    • cargocult Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 11:11 am

      It is quite obvious by now that the vaccines are utterly ineffective at stopping spread. According to Sunetra Gupta at Oxford, we won’t get out of this pandemic until we reach herd immunity through repeated infections. It seems what we should have done from the very beginning was to shield the most vulnerable while allowing the rest of us to get natural immunity. Footballers surely are at low risk for serious disease.

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/24/vaccines-never-route-eliminating-covid-entirely/

  44. Steve Reply
    November 28, 2021 at 4:28 pm

    So .. the KLM website YOU link to saya that NO test is required before departure for fully vaccinated. Perhaps instead of making assumptions and accusations, you should update you article to reflect actual facts. Totally irresponsible and shameful reporting!

    Proof of vaccination: I am fully vaccinated
    Test presentation required at boarding (from age 11) : None

    • Matthew Klint Reply
      November 28, 2021 at 6:52 pm

      Are you for real? That’s the Air France requirements for transit via France, not the KLM requirements for transit via Amsterdam.

      HUKED AHN FONICS REELY WURKED 4 MEE.

  45. dee Reply
    November 29, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    Dave Edwards your comments are right on!!!!

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