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Home » Hotels » A Horrible Stay at the Famed Plaza Hotel in New York City
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A Horrible Stay at the Famed Plaza Hotel in New York City

Matthew Klint Posted onMay 3, 2018November 14, 2023 33 Comments

a statue of a man riding a horse in Plaza Hotel

What happens when a five-star hotel that runs over $1,000 night doesn’t have any food or beverages? That’s what happened at the famed Plaza Hotel in New York City (and still is…).

One of my best Award Expert clients took her granddaughter from upstate New York down to New York City for a couple days. She offered to take her granddaughter anywhere in the world and she chose NYC and the Plaza Hotel, an iconic hotel with a rich history in American culture. She wanted to eat in The Palm Court and Oak Room.

At check-in at 2pm, they were informed their room was not ready. They went out and returned about 7pm. In addition to their room key, they were handed this letter:

a paper with writing on it

Summary: no food and beverages on the premises.

They promptly checked out. The stay was ruined.

Culprit: Labor Issues…in Canada

I called the hotel this morning and asked if food and beverages were still unavailable. Still no food. I was told simply that “hopefully” the “issue” would be resolved in a few days. What issue, I asked? The agent I spoke with said, “Well, to sum it up: labor.”

Indeed, the Wall Street Journal reports this morning that The Plaza has turned away most guests over the last week due to an ongoing labor dispute.

But here’s the interesting thing. The Plaza is part of the Fairmont hotel chain. Fairmont is encountering labor unrest at its Royal York property in Toronto. The New York labor action was initiated to help resolve the Toronto dispute!

Per the WSJ:

The hotels got into trouble after members of the New York Hotel Trades Council union who work at the Plaza and Sofitel raised health and safety concerns related to staff training and other issues, according to a person with knowledge of the matter.

…

By raising health and safety issues at the New York hotels and disrupting their business, the unions hoped they could apply additional pressure on Fairmont to reach an agreement in Toronto, these people said. Fairmont is owned by the Paris-based hotel company Accor, which also owns the Sofitel brand.

Note that the Sofitel New York, down the street from the Plaza, is also encountering labor unrest.

Refund

My client requested a refund and was issued one today:

a close-up of a receipt

Sad that her special trip to New York was ruined due to labor issues in Canada…

CONCLUSION

I’ll follow-up on this post once the issues at The Plaza and Sofitel have been resolved.

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33 Comments

  1. tri n Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    how odd to check out b/c of F&B issues. trip ruined? I would ask for a discount but hardly be put off by F&B issues. Now cleaning and room service is obviously another issue. great food is plentiful in this town. why order room service? to each his own.

  2. Tom Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    Hold on, you’re saying that they checked out and demanded a refund because the restaurants were closed??? If it was something like “no water for bathing” or “not room temperature controls,” ok, fine, check out. Why go all the way to NYC only to eat all your meals in the hotel anyway? In that area, there are plenty of other highly priced (aka ripoff) hotel restaurants just down the street. Take a walk!

    • Matthew Reply
      May 3, 2018 at 1:37 pm

      It is my understanding that the labor unrest spread to housekeeping as well and that for many days the hotel turned away all guests and had to walk them to other properties.

    • Mike L Reply
      May 3, 2018 at 2:34 pm

      I’d say it’s expected that a 5 star hotel has food and beverage on site. Even room service was unavailable. At $1,000 per night, these should be available for guests. You can’t sell someone a room at a 5 star hotel and not have any food or beverage available.

      My question is why don’t they just hire temps with restaurant experience to step in while this is going on?

      • Sco Reply
        May 3, 2018 at 11:44 pm

        “temps with restaurant experience”

        I believe the word you are looking for is “scabs”.

    • 747always Reply
      May 3, 2018 at 11:16 pm

      If it was a hotel priced at UsD 50 a night, I would say you’re correct. Not at this price point.

  3. geoff Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    I’m guessing that the “Package Charge” likely included some sort of food in addition other stuff? At least I hope it did.

    • Matthew Reply
      May 3, 2018 at 1:38 pm

      Correct. I should have clarified that.

  4. Matthew Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    @tri n + Tom:

    Think about a little girl who watches Bride Wars. Who wants to have tea in the Palm Court and Oak Room. The stay in New York was CENTERED on The Plaza and its restaurants.

    • katie Reply
      May 3, 2018 at 7:40 pm

      Maybe you should have advised your client that the Oak Room hasn’t been in operation for almost a decade…?

      • Matthew Reply
        May 3, 2018 at 8:02 pm

        I just book her flights.

      • Mitch Cumstein Reply
        May 4, 2018 at 7:21 am

        That was mean, but also probably the funniest comment so far this year!

  5. Matt B Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Is your client named Debbie Downer? I can’t imagine that the inability to dine on hotel premises ruined this person’s entire trip. If it really did, they need to wake up smell the roses. Were they planning on doing anything else on the trip other than eating/drinking at the Plaza? I can understand requesting a discount, but to ruin the trip seems an exaggeration.

    • Blank Reply
      May 4, 2018 at 4:19 am

      I’m guessing in addition to the paucity of your imagination that you have never stayed at a property just for the sake of enjoying being at that property. You should try it sometime.

  6. thomas Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 2:04 pm

    OMG, is the girl going to be OK?

    Another lawsuit in the work possibly?

  7. Gene Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    # Matthew — They should definitely sue the Royal York.

  8. Paul LoBo Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    Yeah, I get it. Wouldn’t ruin a trip for me, or most readers, but yeah. That’s what was important to the kid. Trip was for her. I have a daughter. If that is what she was focused on, it would ruin the trip, in her eyes.

  9. Garrett Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 3:17 pm

    I know New York is home to some of the best food in the world, but if you wanted to stay at the Plaza to be at the Plaza, this would suck. When I was little I used to read Eloise a lot, so when my mom had to go to a trade show in NYC my dad booked a room for us at the Plaza so I could be there. Of course we did plenty of other things, but I was most excited to be at the hotel. Also, the “poor little rich girl” comments are tedious and unnecessary.

  10. Jim Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 4:12 pm

    Guys – why all the criticism? There are like no good restaurant outside of the hotel anywhere in the entire city.

  11. tda Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    “I called the hotel this morning and asked if food and beverages were still unavailable. They are not.”

    They are not still unavailable?

    • PVG Reply
      May 4, 2018 at 12:31 pm

      Yep. Poor. Very poor language….

  12. JoeMart Reply
    May 3, 2018 at 6:30 pm

    I don’ Know why the South Park song “Blame Canada” was playing while reading this.

  13. emercycrite Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 1:54 am

    At least they offered a full refund. Was that difficult to obtain?

  14. Kerry Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 4:30 am

    Not sure why many of the comments on here are so critical of the guest – I would check out and change hotels if no f&b service at all were available there, even more so if housekeeping was also facing disruption. It’s clear in this case the granddaughter had her heart set on the Plaza specifically.

    Is f&b service essential? No, but at $1k per night we have moved way, way past focusing only on essentials. Good for the hotel for giving a refund.

    In any case, while it’s iconic, the Plaza has not been the best hotel in the city for a very long time. The Pierre just across 5th Avenue is generally a better experience as are the St Regis and the Peninsula, in terms of the “grand hotel” vibe.

  15. Paolo Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 10:27 am

    How awful. I keep meaning to go there for a drink but never get around to it. Cary Grant went to the Oak Room for a quiet drink in North By Northwest. His experience wasn’t great either, IIRC

  16. Matt Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 11:24 am

    Unions… I get that they are for and by employees… but at what point does the customer come into the equation?

    Ruining the sales and reputation of another location (which negatively affects the employees there) just doesn’t make sense. But anything to stick it to the people who pay you, right?

    • Tim Reply
      May 4, 2018 at 3:49 pm

      Unions are the downfall of most great hotels.

  17. JoEllen Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    Well at least they didn’t give her a hard time or penalty for checking out.

  18. Der Fliegende Amerikaner Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 7:00 pm

    related:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/nyregion/plaza-hotel-sale.html

  19. Pete Reply
    May 4, 2018 at 10:24 pm

    The hotel should be contacting guests by phone or email prior to check-in notifying them of the situation. Maybe even offer some sort of discount for a future reservation if they decide to cancel.

  20. Donald Reply
    May 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    There’s no “stay” if you don’t stay there.
    They had a bad experience, which ultimately cost them nothing, but no stay.

  21. Stella Reply
    May 9, 2018 at 1:05 am

    I am surprised nobody is criticizing the fact that the hotel did not give them the letter at 2 pm instead of only telling them that the room was not ready yet. This would have angered me far more than the labor dispute itself!

  22. trev Reply
    November 16, 2018 at 7:58 am

    Sadly, the Plaza has suffered from such overexposure in our culture that it’s become more of a tourist attraction. They need to turn it into a condominium and open the bottom as a museum, shops and restaurants. It’s practically that already. When a property like the Plaza changes international corporate hands with such regularity, after awhile it loses its “soul.”

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