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Home » News » United Orders 25 A350s and 25 787s
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United Orders 25 A350s and 25 787s

Matthew Klint Posted onDecember 8, 2009 6 Comments

United announced today it will split its wide-body order evenly between Airbus and Boeing and has placed a firm order for 25 A350s and 25 787s.

Justifying the split order, United stated:

The breadth in size and capabilities of the different aircraft models ensure the company has the right aircraft for the right market throughout the fleet replacement cycle.

To clear the way for these new aircraft, UA will phase out its 747s and 767s between 2016-2019:

United expects to take delivery of the aircraft between 2016 and 2019; at the same time it will retire its international Boeing 747s and 767s.  These 50 new aircraft will reduce the average seat count by about 19 percent compared to the aircraft they will replace, and by about 10 percent when averaged over the entire international fleet.  With the Airbus A350 powered by the Rolls Royce Trent XWB engine, and the Boeing 787 powered by either the Rolls Royce Trent 1000 or the GE GEnx, United estimates it will reduce its fuel costs and carbon emissions from the 50 aircraft by about 33 percent. Additionally, the company expects average lifetime maintenance costs for the new aircraft to be approximately 40 percent lower per available seat mile than the aircraft that will be retired.

In a Q&A section at the end of the press release, the dual order was discussed:

Q:       What are the benefits of placing orders with both manufacturers?

A:       Ordering aircraft from both Airbus and Boeing provides United greater financial benefits compared to choosing a single manufacturer.  Neither manufacturer offers next generation aircraft sized to optimally serve all of the current and future markets in United’s network.  The mix of Airbus A350 and Boeing 787 aircraft give us the right range of aircraft sizes needed to replace both our Boeing 747 and 767 aircraft. The economic benefit of placing the right size aircraft into each market overwhelms any benefit from ordering from one manufacturer.

Furthermore, our international fleet replacement program will reduce our fleet complexity, and associated operating costs, by eliminating one fleet type as we transition from three widebody aircraft types (Boeing 747, 777, and 767) to two (Airbus A350 and Boeing 787).

Pay particular attention to the last paragraph above. With options for another 50 wide-body aircraft, it appears that United’s long-term goal is to phase out not only its 747 and 767 aircraft, but also the 777. Even so, I cannot fathom this would take place for at least another decade so I am not going to lose any sleep about the 777 interior conversions being skipped.

One other tidbit from the press release:

These 50 new aircraft will reduce the average seat count by about 19 percent compared to the aircraft they will replace, and by about 10 percent when averaged over the entire international fleet.

Sounds like upgrades and cheap Economy tickets will be a bit harder to secure…

When I heard the news this morning, my first thought was why in the world United would order from both companies. Wouldn’t better pricing and lower maintenance costs been the byproduct of ordering from a single company?

After examining the press release, though, United’s reasoning makes sense. The 787 and A350 are not identical aircraft and both appear to be needed to take the place of the 747 and 767.

I offer my congratulations to United. New orders are always exciting and it has been 11 years since UA has placed one. I hope the order is an indicator of a bright and sucessfull future for United.

 

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Matthew Klint

Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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6 Comments

  1. kd5mdk Reply
    December 8, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    So, does this mean the 747-8i is dead?

  2. Matthew Reply
    December 8, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    @kd5mdk: I hope not, but it appears that the 747-8i is not in the future plans of United at least.

  3. Joe J Reply
    December 9, 2009 at 7:43 am

    My thoughts: the 787-822 will eventually be engined with the RR Trent 1000s. One reason is for parts commonality between the XWB and the 787s. The second reason is the lack of GE engines in the UAL fleet today. IIRC, UAL had an issue with the GE CF6 engines with the DC-10s (UAL 292 in SUX).

    Also, of interest in the release are options for 25 787-x22s and 25 A350s. I anticipate that these could be converted to 787-922s (or 787-1022s) and A350-1000s for extra capacity as needed in the future.

  4. Matthew Reply
    December 9, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    Ben, over at One Mile at Time, thinks that once the CO-UA merger happens, UA will cancel the Airbus orders. I’m a bit more skeptical.

    Thoughts?

  5. kd5mdk Reply
    December 10, 2009 at 12:55 am

    I doubt it. Boeing has a LOT of Airbus aircraft. A merger would allow them to rightsize their routes while maintaining CO’s status as a Boeing only customer with the traditional perks that’s given them. Given the substantial size difference between the 787 and A350, I think the merged airline would probably be happy to have some A350s available.

  6. kd5mdk Reply
    December 12, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Doh! I meant to say United in my second sentence.

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