Simple question: if the United States imposes a seven-day self-quarantine requirement on incoming international airline passengers, will you respect it?
Yesterday we learned that the Biden Administration is considering several new measures that will tighten international travel. One of those measures is a mandatory week-long quarantine for those returning by air to the United States.
While the details are still under consideration and even being evaluated for legality, an announcement is expected on Thursday that will detail new testing and potentially new quarantine protocol.
But let’s be real. The United States is too vast and too populous for any meaningful enforcement mechanism. Thus, if such a policy is introduced (and right now it is only under consideration), it will be on the honor system. There likely would be penalties threatened, but practically impossible to enforce. It’s not like we are going to see the U.S. military or Transportation Security Administration (TSA) baggage screeners going door-to-door checking IDs. Even in liberal Los Angeles the LA County Sheriff’s Department refused to enforce the County’s mask ordinance.
There will also likely be loopholes, so to speak, not only for medical workers and first responders, but likely a broad categorical exemption for those whose occupation requires frequent travel.
Public health officials are not stupid (well, I suppose that is debatable) and already know there will be a subset of the population that will ignore any quarantine order. Still, their aim is not perfect compliance but limited compliance that they hope will still slow the spread of the virus.
So in a purely unscientific poll of world travelers on this blog, I am wondering if you intend to obey such an order. If you work in an office, will you be able to work from home for a week? Would the introduction of a post-flight quarantine cause you to cancel any upcoming trips or refrain from booking future trips?
Folks, the pandemic has become political and I understand that feelings are strong on both sides. For the benefit of everyone, though, please be respectful in the comments section. Please address the issue, not the other posters. And rather than just link to other webpages, take the time to develop your point here. Let’s keep the discussion respectful.
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Thank you for contributing to this thoughtful discussion with your insightful comment.
Glad you found it insightful.
Actually, it’s more of an accurate representation of how most people feel about Brandon than many realize
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Are you comfy in your basement?
Just ask your wife!
You so brave to attack people behind a computer screen. I know your type really well. Loser.
So you admit you dwell in a basement
Yeah. You only respect an administration headed by a sexual molester. Hope you never have a daughter as she would be in danger of being offered up to Trump by you
All hail Creepy Joe!
https://www.thewrap.com/creepy-joe-biden-trends-press-conference-whispers/
https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6
No one would mistake Trump for a gentleman, but it’s hardly as if Republicans have a monopoly on unsavory personal behavior. That being said, I don’t think creepiness should be a crime. Rape, of course, goes well beyond creepiness and yet Bill Clinton roams free, gallivanting around the world in carbon-spewing private jets. Believe all women (unless they are accusing your political candidate husband), amirite? Why is he not getting a taste of his own medicine in prison in that case?
As for quarantining, it is a joke. It was horribly enforced in Italy and the UK and it doesn’t work unless you are willing to commit to a totalitarian effort like they have in Australia. That will only push back the inevitable, though. The virus is gonna virus, so let (healthy) people get infected. It is the only way to herd immunity.
Nice to see you defend your fellow cult member. Now do a Donnie and troll someone else
Defend a cult member? You mean what you are doing for Creepy Joe with the hairy legs?
Big No
Awwwww struck a nerve there?? How does it feel huh.?? How does it feel?? That’s all you ever do, you BIIIG LOOSER!! HOW DOES IT FEEL.?? All the vitriol you spill on a daily basis , calling people names, “snowflakes”, you little “butterflies “, all the while hiding behind YOUR computer and YOUR cowardice!! You are nothing but a nonstarter, and pure human vomit!!!
delete this trash now
People, people! Please! It’s LOSER…with one (1) O. If we’re going to go one unhinged rants, regardless of your political leanings, please at least spell correctly. But, if you’re in a situation where someone is un-tightening a screw or bolt, then by all means exclaim “looser” – with two (2) O’s.
I think Trump Derangement Syndrome might be more widespread than COVID-19 in the US.
I will respect it in not doing any air travel for a week during “quarantine” to avoid drama or further spreading in crowded areas. As well it leaves you more vulnerable for someone to identify you via Pre Check and Global Traveler as to breaking quarantine. But will I sit at home in a dark room? Of course not. I will test after three days and if all clear will go about my normal routine and then wait another few days to fly.
If I can drag my vaccinated and boostered carcass to Florida and back and not have to quarantine, I should be able to travel anywhere and not have to quarantine.
That’s a big, fat, hell no.
If you are so against simple measures to protect public health, please explain your position on red traffic lights, speed limits and stop signs, thanks
No. I am incredibly cautious about covid and only travel to destinations with lower covid rates than America. Quarantine is designed to protect the society not the individual, as long as the individual faces more risk in society than society faces from the individual the quarantine process is pointless.
Hell No, I would quarantine if I had Covid but just because I Traveled outside the U.S. NO!!!!!
If this new variant really is concerning, they should just cancel all international flights all together for a week or two until they find out more information.
I would refrain from overseas travel while the rule is in effect (which is probably the rule’s intended effect). I’ve been just about everywhere I want to go and have no essential need to go oversea. That said, as soon as this silliness ends, I would be booking a flight to somewhere far way.
Please explain this “silliness” to relatives of the 780.000 people who have died, and directly to the countless suffering long covid, thanks
I will obviously not quarantine.
But, having a strong CDC recommendation would mean all the corporations and offices will enforce a policy that you must wfh after any international trip and it’ll be against policy to come in. This can have downstream impact for business travel
@ Matthew — Should be easy as I don’t go much of anywhere when we are home anyway.
There is one word you used that is interesting: “returning”. International air travellers to the US are not always returning to the US. Though I could say that just recently I returned to the US after more than one and a half years … and have already returned back home to Germany.
It is one thing if someone lives in the US and is indeed returning back home. But a mandatory quarantine even for fully vaccinated people with a negative test would essentially mean a return of a travel ban. Does it make sense to fly to the US for vacationing there, when you are forced to quarantine for a week? Not really.
Or travelling for business reasons? Oh, you can come over, but you may not visit clients, business partner, …. just stay in your hotel.
As long as they keep allowing BinaxNOW Antigen tests and allow the test to be from when you originally depart, then whatever. I don’t care what else they try to do.
When your departure from origin (TBS-MUC-FRA-ATL) puts you immediately outside 24 hours entering the US then travel becomes a non-starter.
The quarantine requirement is unconstitutional, and will almost certainly be struck down in the courts like all of the other Brandon Administration mandates recently.
However, putting that aside, the answer is no. I will absolutely not comply with any quarantine. Enforcement would ultimately fall on the states, and my guess is my home state will simply refuse to enforce any such restrictions anyway. B brings up a good point, though – Biden’s handlers will do what they’ve traditionally done with mandates they know are likely illegal. They’ll simply lean hard on Big Business to enforce their wishes in true Fascitic fashion. If the Fortune 500 put in place mandatory quarantines for employees after international leisure travel, the net effect is exactly the same.
I would not. But do as I say, not as I do.
The day they stop illegals from crossing the southern border is the day I’ll do anything this administration says regarding COVID. Normal Americans make their own choices on what is best for themselves. F Joe Biden
Hilarious. It was okay for your ancestors to wander into someone else’s country, other people should respect the arbitrary Laws, but for you, you should be allowed to do whatever you want, because you’re special. This is the mindset that will destroy us if left unchecked. I admire your ability to not see the inanity in this.
I would self-quarantine for 2 weeks. Just to be safe.
I’d quarantine for a year and take a booster shot each day to feel safe!
I’m curious who is going to enforce this. Texas + Florida certainly won’t (thankfully!).
I thought for a while on this question, at least a couple of picoseconds, and have decided I will not quarantine. I have one more roundtrip to London before Christmas. And, upon my return, will conduct my life as normal regardless of whatever edicts these idiots issue next.
I would imagine around 20 or 25 states will have governors and state attorneys general saying this doesn’t apply to their states and they won’t enforce it. Maybe the feds should be more concerned about the 1,000 murders in Chicago this year.
@ FNT Delta Diamond — Why should their be more concern over 1,00 deaths than 1,00,000?
Because BLM
Joe Chivas wins the internet today. His prize is saving himself from being first against the wall.
It’s worth remembering that the federal government, as it stands now, does NOT collect the tests of arriving passengers. Border control doesn’t ask for a test. The airlines look at the results of a negative test but have no ability to verify if the test is legit or not. Just about anyone can create a fake negative COVID test in about 5 minutes with Acrobat.
I’ll make every effort to comply, but it’s not like a huge inconvenience since I’m retired and I’m home all the time anyway.
Our sort of selfish and independent culture will create enough people who deliberately flaunt the rules to make it worthless ;(
Your average Americans simply won’t comply unless they’re forced to at gunpoint.
I’ve never respected my government or obeyed its laws before. Why should I start now?
On second thought, I suppose I might comply, but only if forced. In the end, I suppose that’s what compels any action by citizens: force or the threat of it.
That’s why we must always preserve our right keep and bear weapons. The 2nd isn’t just about owning little handguns or rifles, but it’s about the public maintaining the means of forcing their will back on the government of the day using whatever weapons or other means are required.
I would not comply. Prior to traveling to the US I would have already testers negative, worn masks and adhered to safety protocols for the entire journey, and in my case I fly business so there would be even less risk of exposure. All this in addition to being double vaccinated. And the people I’m visiting in the US have already recovered from corona.
A quarantine would be just another feel good measure to show that “something” is being done, but would have no impact whatsoever. The US already has a worse case count than where I would be traveling from and I guarantee that Omricon is already in the US. There’s no personal or societal benefit to quarantining, so I wouldn’t do it.
Nope. If I test positive or feel sick, I’d stay home a few days. Otherwise, no way.
Just how is Brandon gonna enforce it? We’ll shut the government down by the end of the week lol. Sounds like Brandon revealed his hand a few days earlier
If it’s a federal mandate, yes, I will respect the quarantine.
Having said that, I’m not sure how likely international travel would be for me in the near future.
All of y’all who are like “I’m going to ignore government rules because the government doesn’t have a clue” I’m sure also want other people to follow arbitrary government rules when it suits you. Kinda hilarious.
At least @Tom is straight up about it – I’m sure he supports all forms of anarchy, and would certainly never have a bad word about people crossing the border.
The reality is that our country is so entitled that there is zero chance of such rules being complied with. Because we have so many morons who wouldn’t get a jab or wear a mask, all of us are going to be jabbing and wearing masks for years. Eventually I suppose natural selection will take care of it.
No. I have done everything right since March 2020. I stayed home. I socially distanced. I wore masks. I got vaccinated. I got my kid vaccinated. I am frankly done with having my life restricted due to a bunch of fucktards who refuse to be vaccinated. Assuming this new variant will have a greater impact on the vaccinated, I say let them die and decrease the surplus population.
If you stop complying then you become one of the [redacted]
No. If you’re vaccinated and test negative, why should you have to quarantine in a country where the supposedly effective vaccine is readily accessible?
There is zero logic behind this.
Also not like lockdowns and quarantines worked the first time. Just stop already.
If you want a revolution and mass civil disobedience, this is a great way to ensure you get it.
Quarantine schmarantine.
I think it’s past time that Brandon task Heels Up Harris to fly to Wuhan to identify root causes of covid and the systemic racism that it causes.
I’ll be more stringent about mask wearing and I’ll avoid large gatherings but at this point I have my booster so COVID is only a factor in my risk assessment, not the primary factor
What a clown! When I find it hard to believe that there are still people in fear of Covid, someone like you shows up.
Somehow I doubt anyone would want your debbie downer ass at any gatherings anyways.
No wonder there are still people out there that think woman are inferior. You give them ammunition with your fear. Grow up and put the mask down.
You dont need to attack someone if they choose to be extra careful, that’s their perogative. I know there are actual people who are immunocompromised and try to minimize being out. That’s ok…. As long as these same people don’t whine about other, healthier people demanding to be masked/vaccinated/boostered/quarantined.
Depends on the details, but probably not. Biden, Fauci, and all of their Covid Nazi cronies can take their quarantine and stick it where the sun don’t shine.
In Biden’s case it’s coming right back out. And his nurses will have to clean it up.
Why would they be asking me to quarantine? Omicron? Covid is transmitting freely across the USA and the variant is undoubtedly here, I mean for goodness sakes, I spent three hours in a tent at a Christmas market in Zurich on Saturday night drinking beer with two SWISS FAs that had just returned from South Africa 2 days prior. Maybe I’m patient USA-Zero.
The problem with this measure is that it would be entirely for show and do absolutely nothing to protect the public. That’s the reason why myself, and many other law abiding citizens would ignore it.
So you’re not law-abiding, because you’re asserting that you will ignore the law because it doesn’t suit you. I trust you are equally tolerant of other people who pick and choose which laws they want to follow or not.
We break lots of laws that don’t suit us. I speed, I jaywalk, I drink alcohol out on the lake, I’ve even returned to the US without declaring pre packaged soup that has animal fat which is technically illegal.
If laws aren’t rational, or are easily ignored without any real detriment to society, people will mostly ignore them.
The U.S. has a pathetic 60% vaccination rate. I’ve been vaccinated and boosted. Covid is not my problem now. Biden can mandate vaccination or stop the restrictions.
Think the proposed 24-hour test rule is worth more of a debate. I can’t get one within an hour drive of where I live in Michigan. Wonder how easy/cheap it will be returning from Madagascar next year? Comrade Biden could just follow the Chinese no international travel rule. Quarantine? No, never.
I live alone in a basement apartment with no windows and only one light switch. I am used to staring at a dark wall and pretending it’s a roomful of imaginary friends. My soul has already experienced a lifetime of quarantine, so seven days isn’t even a rounding error.
politics aside- this is getting ridiculous.
Agreed! I’m blue through-and-through but this is so silly anymore. I’m all for vaccines and tests (when it makes sense) but the last two int’l trips I’ve been on nobody has remotely checked our testing status/results despite having ordered, carried with us abroad through multiple countries, then taken our at-home tests. Nobody, during our entire USA-bound journey, even asked about it let alone checked it. Not one. Not the airline. Not anyone in a federal/state/local gov’t capacity. So what’s the point anymore? Scare tactics? I seriously don’t know.
Biden can respect Deez Nutz
I will not quarantine, and this is why. I was in FL for three weeks. I can go to FL and not have to quarantine. I am going to Cozumel, where there is almost no COVID. I am flying business class to limit my exposure, and i am very careful in the airport. This summer I went to Belize where there was almost no COVID, and you could not stay at a hotel unless it met the GOLD standard, use a taxi unless it met Gold standard, or take a tour unless it met Gold standard. This meant all of these had to pass rigorous government inspections. And now you want me to quarantine after I ‘ve had 3 COVID shots, taken a COVID test 24 hours before flying home, been very careful on my entire trip, gone to a place with far less COVID than FL and where people are masking and sanitizing all the time? When after I arrive I will work in my office with few people and have limited exposure and be socially distant? I think not. Let the 40% of the people who haven’t gotten vaccinated get the shot, and practice social distancing.
Do you represent the ‘Gold Standard Lobby’?
Super curious, since you’re holding FL up as a negative example…what’s the difference between FL-whom, one would believe does “everything” wrong and their case numbers and oh say, NY’s numbers? Other than of course about 5x more cases in NY? Or is that irrelevant to your bias?
I did not, would not, and will not vote for Trump and…
Joe Stalin Biden can fork himself!
7,000,000 people die every single year from smoking but we haven’t taken drastic measures like we have for Covid.
Joe BS has been caught on video and in photos violating every one of his mask mandates, social distancing rules and quarantine policy.
Joe Blow is a hypocritical dic…..
The word “quarantine” has consistently been misused during this pandemic. A person is quarantined because they either HAVE a contagious disease or occasionally because they have had a clear, known exposure. This proposal is talking about confining people to their homes who have both been vaccinated against the disease AND have tested negative for it. That’s insane. I’m a huge NO as well.
I would not. I’m an expat who would be returning home for the holidays from a lower risk country than the US. I feel vaccination + booster and test 24 hours prior to travel is sufficient to minimize risk. Losing 1 of my 2 weeks with family is just not an acceptable option at this juncture.
Thank you for sharing. That is something I did not think about and makes me more against this quarantine idea.
In a word, yes. The answer to moronic regulation is not selective compliance – societies cannot function without compliance with a common set of social and legal norms. The answer is to vote out the clowns that have zero strategy for actually improving public health besides throwing Mr I Am Science on TV and making life miserable in hope that everyone will just stay home. The world is moving on from COVID. Time for clowns at Team Biden to get onboard with managing the problem rather than failed effort to eliminate an endemic infection.
No would be my answer with the information we have now about omnicron. The doctor who discovered this variant states so far they are only seeing mild symptoms and no uptick in hospitalizations. I am sure more data is needed to confirm this variant mostly causes mild illness, but governments are over panicking. I might be open to taking a third test a few days after return abroad but that’s about it.
For those in favor of the quarantine I ask, are you currently quarantining for a week after travel?
Why do you need the government to mandate it if you think it’s a good idea? Nobody would stop you from self imposing a quarantine.
As for me, honestly, I wouldn’t quarantine. I travel internationally on a regular basis and haven’t self quarantined thus far. Even before vaccines were widely available when it truly might have provided value. So why would I start now? It’s been 2 years and somehow the experts just now decide quarantine is a good idea. Right.
Lol no
Yes, if it gets so bad that the govt/science say to quarantine, we will. We did it in the UK where we live half the year and everyone we know there was abiding. If anyone was observed breaking protocol they were criticized and avoided. When we returned home there, our friends had stocked our fridge and continued to drop bread by. My sister signed us up for the meal kits delivered to the door and we enjoyed learning to cook meals we had never tried before. All the groceries were delivering. Restaurants and pubs were closed and everyone wore masks to do essential tasks. The difference was it had not become political there; we all felt we were in it together, to protect ourselves and others. You can imagine the day the pubs opened for outside service how we all bundled up to celebrate! When vaccines became available, it was not necessary to spend hours online or phoning or driving long distances. You were simply notified when your category was up with a call or text giving you choices of venues and times. As the country opened up, we could download apps to scan the bar code of any establishment we entered. They were anonymous, but anyone testing positive entered it into their app, which automatically sent a ping to anyone whose app had been in the vicinity during the time calculated to be contagious. You would then test yourself for a number of days and self isolate until you were sure you had not contracted it. Did I mention we can pick up free boxes of 7 self tests at any pharmacy plus at popups outside groceries? My last comment is that I knew NO ONE who contracted or died from Covid-19 in London but I sadly cannot say the same for here in the US where we know several who did. One dear friend suffered 77 days on a ventilator and another who felt no need to get vaxxed because he was only 40 and healthy, died. So yes, if our scientists ask us to quarantine, I will.