A leaked slide deck suggests that United Airlines is pulling further ahead of American Airlines as the preferred hometown carrier at Chicago O’Hare (ORD), but is AA on an irreversible death spiral or simply in need of returning to the basics?
Local Favorite: United Airlines Widens Lead Against American Airlines In Chicago O’Hare
Internal slides obtained by aviation insider JonNYC show a widening gap between American and United in Chicago O’Hare for local traffic, with United now holding a 22-point advantage.
In 2015, 38% of local traffic at ORD belonged to United and 39% to American. Since then, United has built up its domestic and global route network, and the numbers are telling: in 2024, United jumped to 51% of local passenger share while American dropped to 29%.
United was just awarded six additional gates at ORD (at the expense of AA, though there is potential litigation brewing) and plans further expansion, though AA is also growing again in Chicago with a new route to Madrid (MAD) having launched on March 30, 2025 and service to Naples, Italy (NAP) launching on May 6, 2025.
With United’s varied fare products (from basic economy to Polaris business class), it can continue to place pressure on budget carriers by offering basic economy fares at similar price levels while offering a wider range of premium fare products and a network that continues to grow, at least in terms of dots and lines. As budget carriers drop routes and frequencies, so can United, and the inverse is true as well. United feels prepared to win any battle against budget carriers like Spirit and Frontier, with CEO Scott Kirby effectively writing them off as unviable competition.
American Airlines is a different story. The Dallas-based carrier maintains a large hub at ORD and though it has shrunk, its connectivity provides apples-to-apples competition with United. Its loyalty program is better than United’s and its premium product, at least in terms of the seat and food, is competitive (at least when it works…).
But there’s more to the story. 2015 represented the bottom of the barrel for United. Jeff Smisek was in charge and cutting domestic routes in a strange (and failed) bid to grow through cuts. When Oscar Munoz took over and Kirby pivoted to United from American in a specially-created “President” position, the carrier began to rebuild its network from years of neglect.
As View From The Wing points out (looking at Cirium data), the percentage of local traffic reported by United tracks fairly closely with the percentage of seats at ORD that each airline operates (though in the last two years there has been a widening gap).
While United has nicer gates, more space, and utilizes larger aircraft from ORD, it is not inconceivable that AA could close the gap simply by adding capacity back, which would be an important test for Kirby’s “sticky customer” theory.
> Read More: United Airlines CEO Thinks Customers Are “Sticky”
CONCLUSION
United Airlines is pulling ahead of American Airlines in terms of local traffic at O’Hare, but I’m not convinced (yet) that it is purely due to United offering a superior overall product. Rather, I think it’s a function of schedule and network, with United adding more flights while AA has been much slower to grow from its ORD hub.
Should AA throw in the towel at ORD? Of course not…AA could start winning back market share by introducing exactly the same kind of international flights and widebody domestic service that UA now leads in…it’s not rocket science.
What AA needs at ORD (and PHL and LAX and JFK…) is a strategy that it sticks to.
ORD is the last remaining two legacy carrier hub airports and AA’s battle brings back memories of DL’s struggles at DFW leading to the closure of its hub there and reallocation of resources to NYC – where AA was the largest carrier at the time – and ATL.
AA has no choice but to fight it out in ORD. The question is how long they need to be. They have no other large presence in the Midwest where DL is the largest carrier thanks to the dual hub DTW and MSP strategy.
UA, as usual, has significant risks in dominating ORD. First, ORD is already the most expensive interior US connecting hub and it will only get more expensive. If AA shrinks further and UA gains, UA will pay a higher share of the cost of the massively expensive new terminal at ORD.
and second is that UA’s desire to fix its JFK and Florida problem via a B6 acquisition becomes much more problematic by eliminating a competitor in a major competitive market.
AA has a massive connecting hub at DFW – far larger than anything UA has. ORD is far better geographically located than IAH or DEN, the other two center-US hubs which UA is trying to grow.
and UA isn’t going to win against every ULCC and if they do, it is further evidence why further consolidation in the industry shouldn’t be allowed.
it is possible to win the battle and lose the war
“dual hub DTW and MSP strategy” – that’s an inheritance from Northwest. They, not some Delta mgmt team strategy, made those viable.
UNITED rising, and industry leading 1Q margin with the handicap of high cost and contested multi-airport hub cities. Means they’re winning on choice. Earning mine with proper wine in premium cabins – even $20 a bottle red in domestic first class not the plonk Delta serves, and an unmatched long haul international network.
Greg,
and EWR wasn’t built by UA.
What is your point?
airlines are the product of the mergers they have done.
none of which changes that DL is the largest airline in the Midwest.
and UA does have higher airport costs – and they will grow faster than other airlines as UA expands its hubs to carry more of the connecting traffic to develop a domestic system; for years, UA was too focused on adding flights to Mongolia and Greenland that they failed to notice they are the 6th largest airline to Florida. Oops. and the 4th
and UA’s higher airport costs don’t begin to offset its lower labor costs which is what drove its higher margins. Actual UA employees – the ones that deliver UA’s product – don’t care about UA’s margins given that their own personal paychecks subsidize UA’s growth.
none of which changes that UA’s incessant very public mindset to take out every competitor is not lost on regulators. There is no way that UA is going to fix the holes in its network at JFK and Florida w/o a merger. no regulator is going to allow the world’s biggest airline to grew even more when it is determined to take out whatever competition remains.
Point being DTW and MSP weren’t a ‘strategy’ of Delta’s implying a planned greenfield expansion by the Delta management team. The only choice they made was to keep them going, and exit CVG. DTW handles fewer passengers than it did pre merger.
And UA leading the industry in 1Q margin with the hurdles of both airport cost and secondary in-town airports competing for local origin traffic at every hub but DEN.
nowhere did I say that DL invented the dual hub Midwest strategy.
just as UA did not develop EWR as a hub.
Yet both carriers recognized the value of what they acquired which is why it is hard to understand why you want to argue the point.
UA simply gets more of its revenue from its hubs compared to both AA and DL. and UA’s revenue share in Chicago and Houston is less than what it gets in its coastal hubs including San Francisco and New York City.
Quit arguing about every single distinctive that UA has just because you think it makes them better because they posted a higher margin in the 1st quarter off the backs of their employees. The hub structure and carrier competition in every one of UA’s hubs didn’t change over the past 3 years; UA’s employees DID become less well paid relative to their competitors. THAT is what has changed.
Tim, you have spent your life in the comment sections replying to just about every topic when you have nothing left to say with “But Delta’s margins”
Well, now you can’t. Because United beat them without monopoly hubs, without an amazing credit card deal, and with full unionization…
Keep crowing about the deals the UA unions didn’t get. They have no leverage and those unions know that.
Just chill. Give United their time in the sun. They deserve it. They have done wonders and FINALLY have brought about the dream of what the merger was supposed to bring, crazy margins even in high-cost cities.
Doug Parker’s biggest mistake was firing Scott Kirby. Everyone knows it.
Delta runs a tight ship, but there’s little innovation left there. Ed Bastian is a corporate schill that needs to be shown the door.
give it up, Max.
UA does have monopoly hubs whether you understand the concept or not.
They get more revenue from their hubs than DL does. Or AA or WN.
UA’s network has always been about serving big cities. They just didn’t care about serving most of the rest of the US until they realized that their inability to get more credit card revenue is because US credit cards depend on, wait, wait, spending done in the US.
UA”s margins will fall dramatically when they have to pay industry comparable wages. Or else UA employees will have wasted money on unions while AA and WN were suckered into paying the higher wages that DL set for its union and non-union employees alike. Maybe DL ended up paying its people too much and is eroding its own margins – but as long as UA’s wage expenses per seat mile are still well below DL’s and until UA’s employees say that is ok, as long as you keep bragging about how well UA’s margins are, I’ll keep repeating how underpaid their employees are.
Take a cue from Matthew and just put the topic on the back shelf -including comparing UA’s margins to DL’s – until we get a few contracts signed and then see where it all ends up.
and as much disdain as you have for Bastian, Delta, under his leadership still leads in multiple metrics. You need only look at the DOT’s Air Travel Consumer Report to see how low UA scores in baggage handling and cancellations and how high DL scores in those same metrics to see that one quarter’s margin doesn’t change much.
“UA does have monopoly hubs whether you understand the concept or not.”
name one.
they all have competing airports or competing hubs in the airport.
Delta crows about their monopoly hubs with no competition that they co-opt local governments to operate in a monopolistic fashion with them.
United does not have that. but sure, tim. Name one airport United has without a sizable airport in the same metro or a major competitor at the airport?
DL has ATL, DTW, MSP, and SLC with no competition and Delta explicitly says their profits come from their monopoly hubs. United just beat Delta on margin with none of those advantages.
You can keep arguing the same useless nonsense on every article but even DELTA says you’re wrong. They know where their profits come from and United just doesn’t have those kinds of hubs. They definitely want DEN to become that but it isn’t right now.
Moving on…
first, Max, monopolies (and you don’t even use the term correctly) is not about whether there are competitive airports in the same metro or not.
and second, you do realize that the US domestic airline industry was deregulated almost 50 years ago? If putting hubs in cities where there were no other airports mattered, don’t you think that UA should have thought about that a long time ago?
and third, AA and WN also have hubs in cities where there are no other airports so this boogey man that you want to create to show why UA succeeds and DL just has a crutch doesn’t cut it.
but let’s face it. YOU ARE COMPLETELY INCAPABLE of addressing the real reasons for why the airline industry operates.
Again.
Name one.
You can’t. All you can do is write a lot trying to ignore what I replied to. That delta has four monopoly hubs while United has none but still beat DL on margin.
Good for UA!
Tim
Stop being so offended by Delta investor presentations that SAY that DL profitability comes from their four interior core hubs.
Delta says it. Not me.
United just beat DL on margin with no monopoly hubs. You can’t even reply with one hub UA has like ATL/DTW/MSP/SLC
yet you keep writing.
Just say congrats to UA and move on. I don’t choose to fly UA much (they aren’t convenient for me but a great airline) but I can still say congrats for an amazing turnaround
Good for them. Learn to love your peers.
how about you provide a business dictionary definition of a monopoly.
and then tell us DL’s share of its own hubs – and it will be apparent that DL does not have a monopoly
but let’s face it that you don’t understand basic business principles and therefore you are incapable of understanding why the airline industry oeprates the way it does.
UA gets more revenue from its top 4 hubs than DL does. DL doesn’t have monopolies. UA has hubs in large markets and gets the highest share of revenue in those hubs, just as DL does in its hubs.
The difference -which you clearly are incapable of understanding – is that DL like AA and WN – get half of its revenue OUTSIDE of its hubs. UA is nowhere close to that amount.
THAT is why they are working overtime trying to push their way into the 150 domestic cities that they didn’t think were important enough while they were chasing routes to Mongolia and Greenland.
the only one that needs to move on is you who are incapable of admitting that UA will have to spend $1 billion more on labor expenses in order to compensate its employees comparable to AA, DL and WN.
UA’s margin will fall below DL’s IF they paid their employees those kinds of wages.
UA’s unions – the ones you think do so much – are not about to give up the productivity gains that UA wants in order to get DL’s labor rates.
UA’s financial success RIGHT NOW is because their employees are underpaid. The longer you continue to argue w/ patently false statements such as about monopoly hubs – and you don’t even use that term correctly – I’ll keep up the argument.
“how about you provide a business dictionary definition of a monopoly.”
So this is where we are…?
You claim United has monopoly hubs.
When confronted with the actual facts that EVERY UA hub has a hub competitor or a major nearby airport.
Now you want a business dictionary? You can’t actually be this tragic?
You aren’t worth a reply. This is stupid. We both know ATL/DTW/MSP/SLC are monopoly hubs. Delta nearly calls them that in 2021/2022 investor presentations to try to get investor confidence.
United has none of that but still beat UA on margin this quarter.
Move on… This honestly just starts looking so stupid for you.
A business definition for “monopoly” hubs when Delta literally says that’s their strategic advantage to investors?
*still beat DL* 😉
And Again.
NAME ONE, Tim.
ONE. There is no UA equivalent to ATL, DTW, MSP, and SLC.
But UA still beat DL on margin. Meaning, structurally, DL is behind UA even without every monopoly hub advantage…
That should be impressive. and It is.
It’s remarkable watching Tim Dunn try to cope with UA’s rise to the industry leader. An analyst even referred to UA as the flag carrier of the US on last week’s earnings call.
Everyone knows what’s happening, Tim just wants to live in an alternative reality. It’s not 2015 anymore Tim, there’s a new sheriff in town at UA.
The big picture is that UA is more willing to take bigger swings at the plate while AA is satisfied with advancing the runner to second base on a bunt and perhaps even scoring on an error.
AA’s retreats at ORD cost them a bunch of my business, and they would have lost even more of it if not for the AA miles being more valuable than UA miles for my flights to/from/via ORD.
Even as I prefer the AA lounge food options over the UA lounge food options at ORD since I get flagship dining at ORD even when flying in economy class on the airlines but only get regular UA club food when flying in economy class on UA/Star Alliance, UA is the better airline of the two for me to fly to/from/via ORD.
Oh, okay. I suppose American is pulling ahead of United in Dallas and Phoenix?
despite the incessant chest-beating by UA’s fans, UA still generated less domestic revenue than either AA or DL in 2024.
As much as it would to have one, UA will never have a hub like ATL or DFW
UA has EWR, IAD, ORD, DEN and SFO. That UA mix usually works better for me than DFW and ATL.
“despite the incessant chest-beating by UA’s fans, UA still generated less domestic revenue than either AA or DL in 2024.”
Are your responses now getting this desperate that now you just have to say “delta is bigger than United domestically” to say anything?
ok. Delta is bigger than united domestically. so? That means nothing and if you know anything about United’s domestic plans, that probably won’t be the case for long. AA is bigger than Delta domestically… so?
it is just as material as the incessant chest thumping about how big UA’s international network.
and despite all of the ASMs that UA flies, its total revenue doesn’t beat DL’s.
DL didn’t invent the credit card loyalty program but it has perfected it – just like alot of other concepts.
and by the time UA gets a good CC deal, DL will be making a billion dollars more in profit fixing all of the new generation engines for other airlines given that it has US airline exclusivity.
as much as you think that DL is at risk of being overtaken, DL is ALWAYS two steps ahead of the competition.
“as much as you think that DL is at risk of being overtaken, DL is ALWAYS two steps ahead of the competition.”
You seem to think I care who wins. I really don’t. I know why DL is profitable. Lots of reasons for it.
But they also just got overtaken. We’ll see if it lasts, but Delta has a mediocre CEO, United does not.
but again. You’ll likely be offended at 2Q results whoever comes out on top. I won’t because I don’t have a dog in the race. You seem personally offended when delta loses. Find a new hobby.
You don’t get it.
UA employees are offended that not a single union has a current contract. The absolute worse in the US industry.
If you praise that kind of CEO, you highlight how anti-employee you really are.
“UA employees are offended that not a single union has a current contract. The absolute worse in the US industry.”
Are you actually this ignorant or just this dumb to hope you can say nonsense without comment?
United has lots of unions with current contracts. Just two horribly mismanaged unions that don’t have contracts, but it’s also one of the few benefits of unionization — unions that can’t get over themselves. But it’s a normal part of negotiations and Sara Nelson is an idiot that should be fired.
every single one of UA’s large non-pilot unions will have contracts that are amendable by the summer. 65k employees representing 6 workgroups and 3 unions is not just about Sara Nelson and the AFA who can’t get a contract for UA FAs, let alone the DL FAs she thinks she is going to win over – at personal cost and loss of salary to DL FAs.
none of which changes that, bad union leadership or not, UA’s costs are not what they would be if they matched AA, DL and WN’s pay scales. And UA loves it that way.
And UA’s margins will not be the same.
thank you, again, Max, for confirming that you are a UA management employee – no wonder you use a fake name.
“thank you, again, Max, for confirming that you are a UA management employee – no wonder you use a fake name.”
lol. You’ve been calling me aa management for so long.
Now I’m United?
Pick a lane. This is such a lame accusation from a fired delta employee. You didn’t know how to respond to another person the other day and this was your lame reply too. Give it up and admit when you’re wrong. Go to bed, loser.
And again. Thank you for confirming you’re wrong, that there are amendable contracts coming up at UA (are we going to start talking about delta employees that don’t have a new pay raise?), but they aren’t amendable. You can’t possibly be this outspoken but this ignorant about union contracts.
Are you?
“As much as it would to have one, UA will never have a hub like ATL or DFW”
Which as a primarily domestic CUSTOMER based in chicago, is exactly what I want. I like that I can get to LGA for a single day business trip in Manhattan for less than half of what it costs from ATL
you do realize that DL’s revenue share on ORD-LGA is right at 25%, the same as AA and UA’s?
You realize there are actual stats for this, right?
Do you think people just are too dumb to look?
ORD-LGA
UA: 42%
AA: 24%
DL: 21%
Try a little harder if you want to keep lying with stats you don’t have.
and before you try to act cute by talking about revenue
United’s revenue on the route was double delta.
You need to go back to a place where you can share your fake BS. You’ll get called out with facts here.
that is NOT the local LGA-ORD revenue share, Max.
and since you are convinced you have all of the answers, how about you tell us the revenue share for every market that DL operates from ORD? there aren’t that many so it shouldn’t take you much time.
and then you can do the same exercise for UA from one of DL’s “monopoly” hubs
If you want a diio membership, tim
go buy it
I’m not your minion.
If you don’t want to buy it, then don’t make up fake facts without the info. It’s very easy to refute.
I have to admit though, this rebuttal attempt is lame even for you.
Do better.
and it is the actual revenue share from Diio.
Where’s your fake info from, tim?
Don’t be mad when you get called out for knowing very little. most of us know it about you.
But you don’t get to spout fake info without backup.
You’re just wrong. Tell us. Where is your info from? Care to just admit you’re wrong?
And if you are so certain you are right, then tell us the revenue shares that EVERY market that DL flies from a UA hub and UA flies from a DL hub.
You won’t because it proves your theories wrong.
and thank you for confirming that you are a management type. Diio is not cheap and it is used by management. YOU are in airline management.
and yet you are clueless about basic business principles – such as what monopolies are and are not.
thank you for outing yourself.
:And if you are so certain you are right, then tell us the revenue shares that EVERY market that DL flies from a UA hub and UA flies from a DL hub.”
lol. go by your own membership, loser
you’re drunk and only prove what I’ve always said about you.
Go get your own membership if you want to go look at share between every DL and UA hub lol.
You’re such a loser.
Go back to your marg.
But again, Tim.
I said where my actual data is from.
Where is your fake data from?
I heard you ask for half of Diio data that you don’t have
Where’s your fake 25% info from? Did you make it up?
you use UA’s data subscriptions to argue w/ people on the internet about how great UA is and how bad DL is.
all under a fake made-up name
Priceless. Just priceless.
lol.
I use data to reply to your BS.
DEFINITELY NOT paid for by UA. But what an interesting way to admit you have no data and I do.
How much else of what you say is absolute BS based on nothing?
To reply to a fellow user that doesn’t use his real name, Tim Dunn.
Don’t pretend Tim Dunn is your real name. You know we’ve already been over this and you drunkenly already admitted it isn’t.
Don’t pretend otherwise.
as usual, you resort to personal attacks when I prove that you are the fraud…. you are the one that decided to tell us all that you have access to a Diio subscription – which explains perfectly why you shill for UA.
and you are just one of many UA execs.
and in case you aren’t aware, DOT domestic O&D data is available on their website. and it is the data that directly feeds Diio and other systems.
and I have downloaded the massive DOT files and processed them.
every day people don’t have Diio subscriptions. but you do and you outed yourself in order to win an argument – and you lost the war.
You are a UA management shill – just like dozens of others on the internet.
I have had a lovely day exposing you for who you are, Max.
Personal attacks?
Is tim Dunn now your real name despite years of saying it isn’t and also using other fake names?
Tim Dunn’s trolling is insufferable. Good god.
I would not deem it trolling, but his posting definitely seems to generate some excitement on boardingarea.com blogs. He is very committed to cheerleading for Delta, and that cheerleading often enough includes his considering some facts about Delta’s competition. I am always skeptical of cheerleading by company loyalists but contributions from company loyalists aren’t all bad.
Who in their right mind would ever choose to fly out of ATL or DFW (much less MSP or Detroit)? Only if you lived there and had to.
I used to cringe when I had to go through those airports and deal with Delta. Delays, crappy secondary flights and the most user unfriendly, greedy airports in the 1st world.
ATL I agree with.
DFW isn’t that bad. At least it isn’t a trailer park mismatch like ATL 😉
I think MaxPower just owned Tim. The latter has staked his life on Delta. If Tim really wanted to see a CEO he would visit Emirates.
It’s not owning. It’s just informing others of who Tim is and who he isn’t. He posts so dogmatically that it’s important to use real data to refute his idiocy. It shouldn’t have to be this harsh but when someone so dogmatically posts incorrect data as fact, you just have to be factual in reply.
Airliners.net, Cranky, and OMAAT have realized this. I have no idea why a great blog like this one welcomed him. Tim has gone off on this site before as “beneath him” before he was banned elsewhere.
Tim was fired by Delta, the company he cheerleads.And he’s banned across most of the aviation sphere. That should tell everyone everything. But the average person doesn’t know that and it’s easy to refute him.
He’s easy to beat on facts. He doesn’t use them. He has a lot of opinions, but few based on reality or actual data beyond the overall fact that, historically, delta has been very profitable, something delta says is due to their domestic monopoly hubs.
you mean you use UA’s data subscriptions that you as a UA management employee have access to in order to argue w/ people on the internet.
Under a fake name.
all the while arguing that publicly available like DOT earnings by geographic region is fake and made up.
You do live in an alternate reality, max
so glad that you followed me over to LALF so we could get to who YOU really are.
“you mean you use UA’s data subscriptions that you as a UA management employee have access to in order to argue w/ people on the internet”
I’ll admit. You make me laugh. You’re proven wrong. Now I’m a UA employee after being an AA employee, per you, for years.
DOT earnings are real, but you don’t understand revenue accounting. You just don’t know anything about revenue accounting or how it’s reported.
You’re an ignorant person pretending to know something who knows nothing.
you then resort to insults that I’m a UA employee because you have no other reply. lol
It’s honestly amusing but just so stupid and tragic.
Do you really find it better to keep digging your own hole vs admitting when you’re wrong? This is just tragic.
you are in full CYA mode.
regular people that debate on the internet don’t have Diio subscriptions.
Tell us who you are and why you have one.
The DOT does publish profitability by global region and you have repeatedly said it is fake.
YOU don’t understand basic math or how the DOT operates.
All they do is collect the data from US airlines and publish it. UA submits its own revenue and cost data and the DOT just calculates the public profit.
The pie is not any larger no matter how the revenue is allocated to any region.
I have asked you REPEATEDLY to tell us how the DOT’s profitability by global region should look if you don’t like the numbers – and you consistently freeze up.
Because you know that ONE is STILL ONE, no matter how it is divided.
UA simply runs its international operation at far lower levels of profitability and has for years.
DL made 30% more profit in 2024 on a smaller international operation than UA.
You can’t stand to admit that kind of data – or logic is correct.
and yet someone gave you access to Diio. you sure didn’t buy it just to argue w/ people on the internet.
lol
You’re too much
Get a life loser
You get owned for making absolute BS up about markets like lga-ord because you think you won’t get called out on it.
It was literally made up to be an ass to another poster. Now you’re mad that someone with data said you made it up, which you absolutely did.
And your counter is “how dare someone have data to prove me wrong”
And I was an AA employee?
Now I’m a United executive ? lol
I’m neither. But don’t make stuff up, tim. You got called on it and you always will when you lie as you do.
Grow up
I’m not an AA or UA employee
You need mental help
I understand dot data very well
And as I’ve said. It says which airline is the most profitable overall.
There’s zero requirement to report revenue the same way. I don’t need to fix dot reporting requirements to tell you what it is and isn’t. You’re the one that claims to use it as fact despite being told what it represents.
Your own lack of knowledge is not my issue. My issue is you lying to others about something you know nothing about.
The only thing dot geographic data says is how profitable a system is. That’s just it. Revenue accounting is a real thing, pal.
Learn about revenue accounting, numbskull 😉
Otherwise, stop posting about something you know nothing about
you’re a fraud and a UA management shill.
You outed yourself.
and so you, as usual, call me names when it is you that wasn’t smart enough to know what you were doing.
UA made less money on its entire system – including in the 3rd quarter when DL melted down w/ CrowdStrike – and DL’s profit margin on its international system is higher than UA’s – which is why UA made less money in 2024 on their entire international route system than DL even though DL flew about 30% less international ASMs.
but I am supposed to be the one that isn’t smart – while you not only outed yourself but can’t understand that ONE is ONE no matter how it is subdivided?
you had a horrible day chasing me around the internet. and I OWNED you.
Enjoy your night.
This is a stupid conversation and back and forth.
When you have data to back up what YOU said, come back to me. Otherwise, your ignorant and weird management claims are just amusing and a very funny way to make me laugh. Thanks.
If you want to lie with stats, don’t be mad when you get called out for literally knowing NOTHING and saying stuff as “fact” this is a flat out lie. lol
But sure. Call me AA management. Call me UA management because you just make up nonsense.
Night night loser
Does anyone remember St Louis?
When AA purchased TWA, St Louis was to be an alternate to ORD for AA.
Eventually, AA folded at STL and WN filled in the void.
Looks like AA got distracted.
I don’t think a lot of people realize what a truly incredible internet troll Tim Dunn is. I’m not saying that as a pejorative. I mean legitimately, he is an unbelievably talented guy that is able to drive people into near insanity and into wasting hours of their time trying to argue with someone who is just sitting behind his keyboard laughing at them all.
Tim isn’t really a Delta fanboy. He means none of it. For all we know he’s an AA frequent flyer. But he’s found his corner of internet fame-dom in the creation of this character he plays, and he does it brilliantly. How can you guys not see this? It’s satire. And frankly so subtle and well done that it’s some of the best I’ve ever seen.
So to Tim: Bravo. Consider me a fan, and I will count it an honor if you reply to this post in character. Let me have it, lol.
To everyone else, for gods sake calm down and take a deep breath, and just enjoy the artistry.
I do get a laugh out of watching people run from website to website trying to argue w/ me.
esp. when they out themselves and then try to call me names.
and I have always watched the airline industry as a business.
Deregulation was very much in my lifetime. I have way more knowledge and history than a whole lot of people here will ever have – and I don’t need to look up answers on someone else’s Diio account.
It is a shame there aren’t more people with the emotional intelligence you have.
If there were, I would have nothing to do.
just back up your fake facts, tim. 😉
it’s not tough
you can’t stand to admit you have been played… just as you are all the time.
other people – a few of them – can figure out that this is all a mental exercise for me.
Frauds are flushed out w/ little effort.
Do you really think it was worth blowing your cover to prove me wrong by 17% (the difference between the 25% share I said that UA in ORD-LGA and the 42% actual?)
You couldn’t help yourself in running to your Diio subscription to prove me wrong – and you proved that you are a mgmt shill in the process – which is exactly what I was certain to be the case anyway.
normal people don’t have Diio subscriptions.
normal people do read DOT data and know that ONE is STILL ONE no matter how many pieces you slice it into.
admit you were whipped and walk away, Max.
I’ve had fun today. So much better than chess.
Lmao
You really are so stupid, tim
Believe what you want.
You’re an idiot
Thanks for making me laugh going to bed
You think you’ve exposed a united exec tonight
You really are an idiot
But thanks for the laugh. And the lame attempt to use my data to seem smarter. It only shows how little you knew when you tried to be a jerk to be another poster on lga-ord.
Are you really this lame? Lol
How about you NOT make random data up?
You got called on it because, just like everything else,
You simply lie because you actually know nothing as you were exposed today.
Try to not lie
Maybe you’ll have Better luck
You got owned today, this is absolutely tragic, even for you
Again
As much nonsense as you put out there about “my blown cover “ lol
Sorry. This is just so stupid and funny but you’re also an idiot that lives in his
Still
Explain to us how your ord-lga example was ANYTHING but made up
We’re all waiting
BACK UP your fake stats
With literally anything. Where did you random ass lga-ord stats come from? Do you make Every other bit like that?
I’m not surprised but tell us where these stats came from?
Your reply seems to be that maxpower@united.com is a c suite email
Which is beyond stupid. But funny and amusing
But also part of your normal paranoia