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United vs. Continental in the NYC Market

Matthew Klint Posted onJune 25, 2010November 14, 2023 5 Comments

While the New York City airline market is one of the nation’s most competitive, transcon routes are particularly cutthroat. Delta, American, and United are all vying for your business out of JFK and offer an enhanced product to SFO/LAX, with premium meals and international-style seats.

Continental, with a hub in Newark, serves many West Coast cities and does not offer a special product on LAX/SFO routes, but still offers a soft product a cut above other carriers on standard transcon routes.

United and Continental will eventually be one, but until the merger happens you still have a choice when flying between the West Coast and the New York City area. Even after the merger, UA will likely still offer their Premium Service product to JFK. I recently had the chance to try out both products in business class, and offer the following thoughts.

a close up of a logo

United utilizes specially-configured B757s on JFK-SFO/LAX routes. The plane features three cabins and offers angled lie-flat seats in first class and a few extra inches of legroom (34″) and power ports throughout the economy cabin.a model of an airplane

a diagram of a business

The leather business class seats are identical to UA’s old cloth international business class seats, still available on most internationally-configured 777s. One notable difference is that rather than a built-in IFE system, business and first class passengers are offered portable media players that feature 10-15 movies as well as an assortment of music, television programming, and games. Economy passengers have only overhead monitors.

a plane with many seats

photos courtesy of United Airlines (unitedps.com)

Meal service is a cut-above other transcon routes, even UA’s EWR-SFO route. The following menu and photos are from a JFK-SFO flight a few months ago, departing in the afternoon.

UA15
JFK-SFO
Dep: 2:40p
Arr: 6:14p
6hrs, 24 min
TO BEGIN:
 
ASPARAGUS, SHAVED PARMESEAN, & APRICOT COUSCOUS SALAD 
 
FRESH SEASONAL GREENS
With cherry tomato and yellow bell peppers
Served with your choice of dressing:
Caesar or Asian Sesame Dressing
 
MAIN COURSES:
 
BARBECUE CHICKEN BREAST WITH BROWN SUGAR HICKORY SAUCE
Fresh dill and buttered potato wedges, sauteed zucchini and yellow peppers
 
SALMON CAKES WITH PEPPERCORN HORSERADISH REMOULADE
Herbed rice pilaf, haricots verts with onions and garlic
 
REUBEN SANDWICH
Shaved corned beef, sauerkraut and emmenthaler cheese on rye bread served with oven-roasted fingerling potatoes
 
DESSERT:
 
STRAWBERRY AND GRAND VANILLA ICE CREAM
With a choice of hot fudge or mixed berries
topped with toasted almonds and whipped cream
 
WARM CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES

a bowl of cereal and a glass of milk

a plate of food on a tray

a plate of food on a tray

a bowl of whipped cream and a tv

a cookie and a glass of milk

The meal was tasty, though mySmoothies are no longer available. The salmon cakes certainly weren’t the best I’ve ever had, but they were acceptable and filling. The ice cream sundae after lunch is always an appreciated dessert.

Service is also a notch up on p.s. routes, most of the time. I have had a bad crew occasionally, but UA’s JFK-based FA’s are generally attentive and friendly. The JFK-based pilots, for some reason, rarely make ATC communications available on Channel 9, including on this flight.

Overall ratings (out of five stars):
Seat: ****
Food: ***
IFE: ****
Service: ***

blue text on a white background

CO387
EWR-SNA
Dep: 11:55a
Arr: 2:49p
5hrs, 54 min

Continental utilizes a variety of aircraft on their transcon routes, though primarily 738s, 737s, and 753s. Some aircraft are equipped with individual IFE screens at each seat featuring DirecTV, though it seems like its a crapshoot as to whether your flight will have them or not.  My Newark to Santa Ana flight was on a 737-700, featuring 12 leather business class seats with no power or individual IFE units.

the inside of an airplane with black seats

photo courtesy: airliners.net (737-800 w/ 16 First Class seats)

Like United, printed menus were distributed and the food was tasty. CO does not offer hot nuts on this route, unlike UA. Furthermore, while FAs ladle dressing on your salad on United from a silver bowl, CO includes a package of croutons, cheese, and a tub of dressing on the tray–not the most attractive presentation. But the main course on Continental was better than on UA. The chicken was flavorful and moist–dare I say fresh.

TO BEGIN:

Roasted nuts with your preferred cocktail or beverage

APPETIZER:

Smoked salmon, black halibut and sesame coated tuna pastrami with Wasbi mayonnaise sauce

SALAD AND WARM BREAD:

Hearts of romaine with cherry tomatoes and kalamata olives 
Offered with Classic Ceasar dressing

Freshly baked garlic bread and assorted rolls with butter

MAIN COURSES:

THE CHEF’S SELECTION
Grilled Sterling Silver® sirloin steak with garlic and herb butter, Delmonico’s Original steak sauce and creamed spinach, onion hash brown potatoes and fresh green asparagus spears
 
CAJUN-STYLE BREAST OF CHICKEN
Herbed chicken with spicy Cajun cream sauce, white beans with chicken andouille sausage, mustard greens, and grilled cipollini onions
 
PASTA BOWL
Wild mushroom and squash filled spinach roulade served with roasted tomatoes, sautéed red bell peppers, kalamata olives, four cheese béchamel sauce and grated Parmesan Reggiano cheese
 
DESSERT:

Vanilla ice cream with choice of toppings

Fresh Brew® gourmet roasted regular and decaffeinated coffee made exclusively for Continental Airlines or tea with your choice of milk or lemon

a glass of liquid next to a pack of nuts

a tray with food on it

a plate of food on a tray

a dessert in a glass bowl

a cup of tea with a slice of fruit on top

Service, at least on this CO flight, was exceptional. Unlike water, orange juice, or champagne on United, the bar was open and I was offered any drink I wanted prior to takeoff. The purser was extremely attentive and engaging and monitored the cabin the entire flight.

The FAs could not get the overhead IFE to work on my CO flight, so passengers were left with no audio or visual entertainment for the flight, unless they brought it themselves. I had a book along so it didn’t bother me too much, though I was a bit disappointed that nothing other than a quick apology was made. On United, an IFE-outage like that would have netted me a $250 voucher.

Overall ratings (out of five stars):
Seat: *** [UA wins]
Food: *** [draw]
IFE: [UA wins, even if the IFE had been working on CO]
Service: **** [CO wins–on this flight at least]
 
To be fair, had I been comparing EWR-SFO on UA and CO, CO would have won hands down. But I am comparing the NYC market, and UA still offers competitive service ex-JFK, even if the p.s. product is no longer what it once was.
 
I purchased an economy ticket and upgraded both flights (complimentary upgrade on CO, confirmed regional on UA), but the price of a one-way business class ticket on the two carriers is roughly equivalent ($1074 on CO vs. $1200 on UA).
 
In this particular market, UA has the edge.

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Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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5 Comments

  1. Matthew Reply
    February 8, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    And I should add that UA has Wi-Fi on this route and CO does not!

  2. Fozz Reply
    February 8, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    As much as it pains me to say this, I think you’re wrong about PS surviving. In it’s current state, I have high doubts that PS will survive.

  3. Matthew Reply
    February 8, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    @Fozz: Do you think they’ll redo the aircraft or start using them on international flights? I’ve been on a couple p.s. flights since December, one in C and one in F and there was revenue traffic in the cabins. It’d be a shame to see JFK go to two-cabin service, even if the menu remains enhanced. Also, remember this post was written last June!

  4. Fozz Reply
    February 9, 2011 at 3:34 am

    @Matthew: The UA 757s are the oldest of the combined fleet and with their P&W engines, just simply dogs. I see these planes just being phased out and being replaced. With what, that’s a good question. I do think that JFK-LAX/SFO will keep an international Biz product, but what that means is up in the air. Delta has 16 seats per flight and they aren’t selling most of them. I suspect whatever happens will have more than 16 seats, but in a two cabin config. Maybe CO 762s will take on the role. Maybe some of the 757s will be converted in two-cabin with a larger J cabin.

  5. Matthew Reply
    February 9, 2011 at 8:06 am

    To that point, we see very little distinguishing first and business anymore. Food is the same and the seats in first, while angled lie-flat when fully extended, are less comfortable than the business class seats.

    But why not just do what US did with their “Envoy Sleepers” and just upgrade the GSs, 1Ks, and Plats (or anyone willing to pay a fee) to those seats? They’re not going to be able to squeeze in extra business class seats if they take out the 12 United First seats.

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