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Seatless in Seattle: United’s Polaris Problem

Matthew Klint Posted onApril 1, 2017April 1, 2017 5 Comments

United’s seat problems continue. Two weeks after news that its new Polaris seats would face delivery delays due to “industrial issues” at Zodiac, United faces new short-term delays. The result: United is parking its brand new 777-300s in Seattle.

“Short delays” are now threatening the delivery of aircraft already loaded into the schedule. For example,   Newark ⇄ Tel Aviv (UA90/91) was supposed to feature new Polaris seats starting on 05 May 2017. That start date is now threatened. Without Polaris seats, United has been forced to park two brand new 777s in Seattle.

Due to Polaris Seat delays. @united N2737U was placed into storage at ATS hangar #2 pad. A 2nd 777-300ER will be also stored. pic.twitter.com/jqGTecWWej

— Woodys Aeroimages (@AeroimagesChris) March 25, 2017

Stored: @united N2136U & N2737U 777-300ER are awaiting @ZodiacAerospace Polaris Seats and are stored at ATS Hanger 2. pic.twitter.com/IDeps9ApaE

— Woodys Aeroimages (@woody2190) March 30, 2017

The long-term delivery issues remain as well. The problem is not merely with labor compensation, but finding the right mix of engineers to deliver a massive quantity of seats. Put another away, Zodiac now appears woefully unprepared to meets its delivery schedules due to issues completely within its control. It’s a self-inflicted wound.

In addition to United’s new 777-300s, the new 787-10s and A350-1000s are slated to receive Zodiac-made Polaris seats and 777-200s and 767-300s will be retrofitted.

United Polaris Cabin

Consequential Damages

A couple weeks ago I wrote a story entitled Why United Won’t Sweat the Polaris Seat Delays and argued that providing Polaris lounges and one of the better soft products in the sky would help keep customers patient. I neglected another important aspect: consequential damages.

Assuming United has halfway-decent lawyers on its legal team, UA’s contract with Zodiac contemplated consequential damages. These are damages that can be proven to have occurred because of the failure of one party to meet a contractual obligation.

As long as consumers do not get fed up with the old seat and jump ship, United may stand to gain here. This is because its consequential damages can represent optimal projected performance, not actual. Say United argues that it has heavily marketed its new Polaris product and the production delay will cost the carrier $50MN (just a number I pulled out of the air). That damages amount likely reflects a very optimistic outlook of sales. Thus, whatever the outcome, United will be covered.

Still, it is one thing to assert contractual damages, it is another to receive them. American has sued Zodiac for similar reasons and the case may languish in court or before an arbitration panel for years.

CONCLUSION

While United can safely assume that one way or the other, it will eventually prevail, this delay remains quite inopportune and is worsening.

I cannot take credit for the “seatless in Seattle” title and the problem goes beyond Seattle–

“It’s not just seatless in Seattle, it’s seatless in Toulouse,” said aviation consultant Robert Mann, referring to the planemakers’ manufacturing hubs and a Tom Hanks movie. “It’s a serious problem and it’s been building.”

Let’s hope the United Polaris project does not implode due to choosing the wrong seat manufacturer.

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Matthew Klint

Matthew is an avid traveler who calls Los Angeles home. Each year he travels more than 200,000 miles by air and has visited more than 135 countries. Working both in the aviation industry and as a travel consultant, Matthew has been featured in major media outlets around the world and uses his Live and Let's Fly blog to share the latest news in the airline industry, commentary on frequent flyer programs, and detailed reports of his worldwide travel.

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5 Comments

  1. Ed C Reply
    April 1, 2017 at 10:48 am

    It also may affect 744 retirements.

    • Matthew Reply
      April 1, 2017 at 11:27 am

      Good point.

  2. Conor Reply
    April 1, 2017 at 3:15 pm

    For damages, in an arbitration case Zodiac can show that they are only responsible for the loss of additional passengers that would switch to United only because of the Polaris hard product, since all other passengers boarding United would be there anyways (did not base their purchasing decisions on Polaris / unaware of this at all). Practically this would be a very small amount.

  3. AdamR Reply
    April 1, 2017 at 10:17 pm

    Agree with Conor, above. But also, if Zodiac closes shop altogether because they simply can’t recover from this, and they declare some European form of Chapter 11/13/whatever, will UA actually be able to recover any of those losses? It’s nice to think, “Oh, well United can just sue them for ‘damages’ and recoup not only losses but maybe come out on top.” But if there’s no company left to sue for breach of contract, then what? IAMNAL aside from some ConLaw and Tort Law classes in college, so this is a legitimate question.

  4. Dan T. Nelson Reply
    April 4, 2017 at 9:51 am

    “Seatless in Seattle” is a great and inspired headline.

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